Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[NotBelievingIt]

I know, but I read on those BB forums that people who experienced tingling/crawling sensation also used toco-sorb, it didn't happen just with toco-8, and the problem for me with toco-8, it's much harder to find online someone who ships it to my mediterranean country, it's more expensive (even considering I'll be taking 2 toco sorb pills daily), and quite honestly I don't believe it's so much less effective than toco-8.

But we'll see, if I don't experience so much effects in 6 months as you guys on toco-8, I'll switch.

And to be clear on tingling sensation on the scalp - IT'S POSITIVE!
So guys, if you experience it while using toco - write about it here.

Tingling is either a sign of inflammation flare up, or strong hairs pushing out weak...earlier then a normal cycle might.

And comparing your gains vs someone elses on a similar product isn't fair. Maybe my body will respond superbly to the -trienols in Toco8, or it will shrug it off. Who knows.

[bananana]

Tingling is either a sign of inflammation flare up, or strong hairs pushing out weak...earlier then a normal cycle might.

And comparing your gains vs someone elses on a similar product isn't fair. Maybe my body will respond superbly to the -trienols in Toco8, or it will shrug it off. Who knows.

Of course, you're right - I was maybe a bit ecstatic when I wrote the comment, each body is different and reacts differently. Everyone should, of course, monitor their progress/situation and act accordingly.

Anyways, I was a bit disappointed that those body builders quit on tocotrienols at first sign of something happening ("tingling/crawling" sensation), they didn't go to a dermatologist or did they notice any sign of inflammation, red skin, or extra shedding - they just quit with the powder.
To me it's a definite sign something is happening - if you suspect bad - you should at least go to a doctor to check it out before making rash decisions.
Am I right?

[NotBelievingIt]

I think with regard to bodybuilders specifically, we should remain skeptical. Some "bros" take a whole slew of stuff that god knows how they all react together.

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

I will admit that if I was truly bat-shit paranoid crazy about my hair I might very well become one of those jumpers, hoping for a miracle that can "put an end to the misery"

[yeahyeahyeah]

I think with regard to bodybuilders specifically, we should remain skeptical. Some "bros" take a whole slew of stuff that god knows how they all react together.

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

I will admit that if I was truly bat-shit paranoid crazy about my hair I might very well become one of those jumpers, hoping for a miracle that can "put an end to the misery"

There are too many good reviews for this product; and more importantly the reviews are consistent....immortal hair for example is a non bb forum raving about it.

Toco 8 is worth a shot, worse case scienario, it does not work. But enjoy the health benefits it brings in other areas. (Unlike propecia, i very much doubt your balls will drop off by taking it.)

3 days now. Nothing to report, aside from more energy after taking it.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Of course, you're right - I was maybe a bit ecstatic when I wrote the comment, each body is different and reacts differently. Everyone should, of course, monitor their progress/situation and act accordingly.

Anyways, I was a bit disappointed that those body builders quit on tocotrienols at first sign of something happening ("tingling/crawling" sensation), they didn't go to a dermatologist or did they notice any sign of inflammation, red skin, or extra shedding - they just quit with the powder.
To me it's a definite sign something is happening - if you suspect bad - you should at least go to a doctor to check it out before making rash decisions.
Am I right?

I have not noticed any of this - "tingling/crawling" sensation.

[gutted]

They may have gotten paranoid at the unknown. Many "bros" are like those in the hair loss community who jump from snake oil to snake oil - they don't see the results they want in a short time frame and then just give it up and move on to the next thing they read about in a magazine or internet forum.

i second that!

[UK_]

Ive been applying a Vitamin E solution to my hair that contains Alpha-Toco something for over a year, its done nothing but improve the skin in the area, no impact on hair loss.

[NotBelievingIt]

Ive been applying a Vitamin E solution to my hair that contains Alpha-Toco something for over a year, its done nothing but improve the skin in the area, no impact on hair loss.

Unless a vitamin supplement explicitly is calling out the tocotrienol chains, its likely only going to contain Alpha Tocopheral, which is the most abundant and common source of "Vitamin E". Even some "Complete Vitamin E" you may see contain only the four tocopherols, so reading the ingredients is important.

[UK_]

Can someone provide me a link to the actual journal article where this "study" is outlined in full?

[2020]

Can someone provide me a link to the actual journal article where this "study" is outlined in full?

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/7211274

[UK_]

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...ery=PN/7211274

Do you have any others by different researchers? I tried doing a search and it seems this is the only research that appears to have found such results.

The research was also conducted a number of years back -

[2020]

Do you have any others by different researchers? I tried doing a search and it seems this is the only research that appears to have found such results.

The research was also conducted a number of years back -

nope, that's the only one...
A bunch of people started taking it since the start of this thread so we'll see if it really works

[gutted]

sorry posted on the the wrong thread.

[Thermal]

Maybe relevant to Tocotrienol discussion due to vitamin E link - after finding out sunflower seeds were good for cholesterol control and said to help with hair growth I've been eating them by the "bucket load" for about 5 months. About 3 months into eating a pack a day (125g) I have noticed that my remaining hair (very few - I'm a NW6/7) have become much thicker. I shave my head completely so any small changes are easily seen/felt. The remaining hairs can now be seen at a distance and can be felt after a few days of shaving. This wasn't the case before eating the sunflower seeds as the hair was very thin and soft even when growing back in after a shave. I have also noticed two vellus hairs growing to around 2mm in areas that have only had very short, almost invisible, vellus hairs for 20+ years. Never seen this before and may not seem like a big deal but I am very proud of them!

However, I also stopped smoking at the same time. So this may have been the cause in hair improvement and not the sunflower seeds. But thought worth mentioning as I have never seen an improvement in my hair quality for 20+ years (was all down hill from 18 years old onwards).

[NotBelievingIt]

Maybe relevant to Tocotrienol discussion due to vitamin E link - after finding out sunflower seeds were good for cholesterol control and said to help with hair growth I've been eating them by the "bucket load" for about 5 months. About 3 months into eating a pack a day (125g) I have noticed that my remaining hair (very few - I'm a NW6/7) have become much thicker. I shave my head completely so any small changes are easily seen/felt. The remaining hairs can now be seen at a distance and can be felt after a few days of shaving. This wasn't the case before eating the sunflower seeds as the hair was very thin and soft even when growing back in after a shave. I have also noticed two vellus hairs growing to around 2mm in areas that have only had very short, almost invisible, vellus hairs for 20+ years. Never seen this before and may not seem like a big deal but I am very proud of them!

However, I also stopped smoking at the same time. So this may have been the cause in hair improvement and not the sunflower seeds. But thought worth mentioning as I have never seen an improvement in my hair quality for 20+ years (was all down hill from 18 years old onwards).

Good to hear!

However your second paragraph is key. It is often the case when people "decide to change" - they also remove something of particular harm to the body (smoking, drinking) and positive changes start occuring and it can be difficult to determine which was the real catalyst for an unexpected or welcomed or even desired change.

Stopping smoking has helped immensely with oxygenated blood flow. Your capillaries all over are less constricted (including those in the scalp), you breath easier and your blood is more oxygenated. This will have the direct benefit of overall skin, hair and nail health.