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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    CIT vs. HST?

    what are the differences? on another forum, h**rsite.com, there is a CIT video advertisement on the front page...



    Is CIT a rip-off of HST? I hope so. I've been waiting for Gho to expand into the US or this to happen.


    I heard Gho's "growth medium" is actually just acell
  • RichardDawkins
    Inactive
    • Jan 2011
    • 895

    #2
    Ok i will keep my temper down for the sake of it and beause i kinda like you.

    I take a deep breath and politely ask you

    "Please take a deep breath, then change the toppics name and try to read stuff about HST and CIt" thank you :-)

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    • Reece
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 18

      #3
      I honestly don't keep tabs on who promotes what but, I think there is someone on these forums that is adamant about new ht doctors learning GHO'S miracle procedure. Seems feasible that Cole may have been using it all along but, was being honest about donor regeneration. I mean Cole is fue+acell and Gho is essentially fue with a special culturing formula (possibly acell).

      Could explain why Noone is paying to take lessons from Gho if his technique already exists and results using the technique haven't been proven consistently. To be honest, although Cole is skeptical on the effect of acell, he seems a little less smoke and mirrors about his results than Gho.

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      • NeedHairASAP
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1408

        #4
        Originally posted by Reece
        I honestly don't keep tabs on who promotes what but, I think there is someone on these forums that is adamant about new ht doctors learning GHO'S miracle procedure. Seems feasible that Cole may have been using it all along but, was being honest about donor regeneration. I mean Cole is fue+acell and Gho is essentially fue with a special culturing formula (possibly acell).

        Could explain why Noone is paying to take lessons from Gho if his technique already exists and results using the technique haven't been proven consistently. To be honest, although Cole is skeptical on the effect of acell, he seems a little less smoke and mirrors about his results than Gho.
        I'd have to disagree with everything you said


        we have no idea what cole is doing. We know exactly what Gho is doing (aside from what the medium is). We do know when gho uses the medium, we dont know what cole does with acell

        also, cole claims he uses .08 needles and gho uses .05

        Cole's website mentions the "white dots" from FUE can be an issue, while Gho guarantees no "white dots"

        there are still more questions to be answered by cole... for gho, we are just waiting for results

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          #5
          ok so CIT is NOT EVEN CLOSE HST


          1. from coles website--> speaking about how CIT has a... "Low transection rate of under 3 percent"-- where as gho tries to transect every graft... 80% transected and 20% are damaged or extracted as regular FUE.

          2. Cole uses a .08 extractor and Gho uses a .05 extractor...

          3. Cole admits on his site he "may" leave white dot scarring and Gho claims on his site there is none (which is possible if cole gets very little with .08 and gho uses a .05)



          So then, What is Cole doing?
          Is he plugging the CIT(aka regular FUE) donor holes with a-cell and seeing regrowth?

          I guess I asked the wrong question, it should have been: CIT vs. FUE? whats the difference?


          If he is getting 60% regrowth... and each graft is cheaper than Gho.. I would get Cole now and Gho (or another option) later----- this is because I'm from the U.S. and the traveling is a pain. Also, Cole's recovery time is close (but not yet) to the level of Gho's.



          I think getting any regrowth over 50% really makes HT a viable option for people that it once was not a good option for (nw6s-nw7s)

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          • damielmillo
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 77

            #6
            I have a basic but big question...
            why gho uses 0.4/0.5 extractor and other surgeons uses 0.8 ?
            why Cole, Cooley or other surgeons donīt use small needles ?
            Come on...it is common sense...

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            • Reece
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 18

              #7
              Thanks for all the info. So what I was able to gather is that the procedures are very similar but, Gho seems to be a bit more refined (.08 vs .05) and they are both more than likely using acell. Looks like Gho may actually have competition after all. Maybe we'll finally get to see more of his results to legitimately compare to cole's.

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1408

                #8
                d
                Originally posted by Reece
                Thanks for all the info. So what I was able to gather is that the procedures are very similar but, Gho seems to be a bit more refined (.08 vs .05) and they are both more than likely using acell. Looks like Gho may actually have competition after all. Maybe we'll finally get to see more of his results to legitimately compare to cole's.

                the procedures are not similar at all.

                The only similarity is the final result involves donor regrowth.

                The methods to get to these conclusions are both VERY different.



                Cole tries very hard NOT TO TRANSECT follicular units--then he places acell in the donor holes, hoping for regrowth of 60&#37;. (<---------I THINK, this is my guess, unless cole is plucking, or he means PRP will grow 60% back, lol)

                Gho tries very hard TO TRANSECT EVERY SINGLE FOLLICULAR UNIT he extracts.. leaving enough cells behind to grow back hair, usually 80% regrow this way--with no a-cell. He then places the graft in a "unknown medium" (which could or could not be acell)... to preserve them for implantation in the recipient area




                @dmillo- the reason Gho uses small needles is because he is purposely transecting. The reason all other surgeons dont use small needs is because they don't want to transect at all.--- cole advertises that he has a 3% transection rate.

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1339

                  #9
                  well explained

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                  • damielmillo
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 77

                    #10
                    Thanks NeedHairASAP.

                    gc83uk, how is your evolution? I am very anxious for my Gho procedure.
                    How is your donor area now? are you happy with the results?

                    Damian

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                    • Reece
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 18

                      #11
                      Thanks for clearing that up. Just watched the Gho interview and it makes more sense now.

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        #12
                        The donor area is fine, I'd go as far as to say perfect.

                        It's only been the recipient area I have been worried about.

                        I retained about 10% of the original transplanted hair which kept growing nicely, but until yesterday I was quite concerned that I hadn't had any new growth...despite everyone telling me not to worry, its difficult not to.

                        It's been 12 weeks 5 days and I'm fairly sure I can see new growth. The problem with the new growth is they are so small and extremely fine, as in I can't see them unless I take a close up photo, although I fully expect them to thicken up over time. Nevertheless I'm quite excited now and looking forward to what takes shape over the next few weeks, fingers crossed.

                        Good luck Damian.

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                        • damielmillo
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 77

                          #13
                          Thanks gc83uk.
                          How many graft do you have? I think you must to wait at least 1 or 2 month more to see more growth...
                          Are you thinking in a second procedure with Gho?

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1339

                            #14
                            Yes I need lots more procedures, I am a really bad case due to my scarring alopecia. I only had 700 grafts done, but because my scalp on so bare its easier to see if this first test is successful or not. I did not want to pay for 2300 grafts in case it didn't work.

                            Assuming I get more growth in the coming weeks and months I will be wanting a bigger procedure next time around.

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                            • damielmillo
                              Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 77

                              #15
                              Ok , i see...and donīt you have any check evolution by Hasci or Dr Gho?
                              Did you talk again with gho after the procedure about you recipient area?
                              I see the Wesley Sjneider procedure with Gho and is really impressive...and he has hair growth in the recipient area so be quiet that your hair will grow!!!

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