Is HASCI for real?

[Kiwi]

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how much money did Gho invest in researching and forming HST? how much time did he invest? what other activities could he have engaged in that would have had more immediate pay-offs than HST?

shouldn't he be able to be reimbursed for a decade of research without compensation?

Did I say he shouldnt be reimbursed?
No, no I didnt.

[didi]

Lets wait and see how dean saunders ht turns out. If he completes his 3 hst treatments thts going to give him abt 5000 grafts and if he is able to razor shave his head with no white dots then im sold.
We need to be patient and wait. In meantime it would be great if people tht are going for hst to document procedure and share with us.

[NeedHairASAP]

Gho is selfish and I'm not convinced about him yet.

Whoever came up with FUE and FUT techniques shared it with the greater Hairloss community "freely" so that balding people should not suffer. Other HT docs picked it up because of this. If I'm wrong then why are we all getting 1990 style hair plugs...

Where the **** is Gho and why is he being a dick holding back on this techniques.

He charges $50K to teach his technique. Is the money he makes from HT surgery not enough for him? Does he need another house? Or another flash car?

I was an FUE surgeon and delivering good results why would I bother paying Gho $50K.... you wouldnt... you would not do it.

And unless they are mother terarsa why the **** should they. They are people making a living not charity cases.

Infact why don't you give your favorite HT surgeon $50K to go learn it. Plus flights and accommodation. I'll chip in $1000 right now.

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how much money did Gho invest in researching and forming HST? how much time did he invest? what other activities could he have engaged in that would have had more immediate pay-offs than HST?

shouldn't he be able to be reimbursed for a decade of research without compensation?

[Kiwi]

Name: IronMan on Jan 23, 2012
Comments: Sep 2002 – Dr. Bernstein concerning Dr. Woods’ “FUE“: ************************* “If Dr. Woods' procedure were "the best transplantation system in the world" as he claims, myself and many other physicians would take great pains to learn it.” “Speaking on behalf of Physicians in the ISHRS, and as a Contributing Editor of Dermatologic Surgery, I welcome any physician possessing special skills or techniques to share them with the scientific community at large, so every patient may benefit from this knowledge. Sincerely, Dr. Bernstein” ************************* So, where are the “great pains to learn it” concerning Dr. Gho’s HST technique, so that “every patient may benefit from this knowledge”??

Gho is selfish and I'm not convinced about him yet.

Whoever came up with FUE and FUT techniques shared it with the greater Hairloss community "freely" so that balding people should not suffer. Other HT docs picked it up because of this. If I'm wrong then why are we all getting 1990 style hair plugs...

Where the **** is Gho and why is he being a dick holding back on this techniques.

He charges $50K to teach his technique. Is the money he makes from HT surgery not enough for him? Does he need another house? Or another flash car?

I was an FUE surgeon and delivering good results why would I bother paying Gho $50K.... you wouldnt... you would not do it.

And unless they are mother terarsa why the **** should they. They are people making a living not charity cases.

Infact why don't you give your favorite HT surgeon $50K to go learn it. Plus flights and accommodation. I'll chip in $1000 right now.

[NeedHairASAP]

Name: IronMan on Jan 23, 2012
Comments: Sep 2002 – Dr. Bernstein concerning Dr. Woods’ “FUE“: ************************* “If Dr. Woods' procedure were "the best transplantation system in the world" as he claims, myself and many other physicians would take great pains to learn it.” “Speaking on behalf of Physicians in the ISHRS, and as a Contributing Editor of Dermatologic Surgery, I welcome any physician possessing special skills or techniques to share them with the scientific community at large, so every patient may benefit from this knowledge. Sincerely, Dr. Bernstein” ************************* So, where are the “great pains to learn it” concerning Dr. Gho’s HST technique, so that “every patient may benefit from this knowledge”??

[sanook]

Thanks gc83uk! Looking good dude

[clandestine]

Looks good gc! Good update, thanks for sharing.

[gc83uk]

week 19

It's been 19 weeks since my first HSI procedure with Gho, I have cut most of the transplanted hairs fairly short in order to see the density count better. I've counted numerous areas of the transplanted area which show approx 30 grafts per sq cm, which I think is ok, but maybe not enough for my final result. I'm pretty happy with the result so far and can't wait to get the 2nd procedure done.

week 19 pic

[gc83uk]

No I don't have scars as such.

My condition scarring alopecia theoretically can start again and perhaps they are being overly cautious, despite not having any further hair loss from this condition over the last 18 or so years.

So when she said scars, I think she is basically saying, putting too many grafts in the scarred alopecia area may be too much trauma for the scalp and trigger it off again. At least this is how I understand it. Other surgeons have refused to operate for this very reason.

As for pics, yes I'll do some more, before and after the next procedure from different angles too.

[Kiwi]

I've just received confirmation of my 2nd procedure booked with Gho in London in a couple of months time, originally the earliest I could get was August, but I've managed to get a cancellation again!

They have also told me that they only want to do 600 -700 grafts, just as last time. I asked them why couldn't I do more (pointed out to them that their site says 2300), but the answer I received back said: "We can’t extract 2300 grafts because you have scars. We are sometimes able to extract more but this depends on the quality of the skin and follicles, the size of the donor area."

I will also need to add, that I have asked for the procedure to be done again without the need to shave all my donor, just as I did last time, so this of course reduces the available donor area.

Perhaps I'm the exception here and others will have no problems getting more grafts done per procedure.

Changing the subject a bit, this Marleen woman, the one who emails us back from Hasci.... I actually thought she was just the secretary, but she is also a technician from Maastrict. Even more embarrassing, she is one of the two technicians who operated on me last year, I've always been shit with remembering names! She and Rolf will be the two technicians operating on me again this March in London. I only realised after seeing the staff photos: staff - hasci

What type of scars, are you talking old FUT scars?

Also does this mean that you don't have unlimited donor OR that you can keep going back for 700 grafts each year.

Thanks for keeping us all in the loop. I will say it'd be nice to see some more photos of your results, less zoomed in so I can get a feel for the overall procedure, a top down from the front angle would be cool...

Anyway thanks again.

[gc83uk]

I've just received confirmation of my 2nd procedure booked with Gho in London in a couple of months time, originally the earliest I could get was August, but I've managed to get a cancellation again!

They have also told me that they only want to do 600 -700 grafts, just as last time. I asked them why couldn't I do more (pointed out to them that their site says 2300), but the answer I received back said: "We can’t extract 2300 grafts because you have scars. We are sometimes able to extract more but this depends on the quality of the skin and follicles, the size of the donor area."

I will also need to add, that I have asked for the procedure to be done again without the need to shave all my donor, just as I did last time, so this of course reduces the available donor area.

Perhaps I'm the exception here and others will have no problems getting more grafts done per procedure.

Changing the subject a bit, this Marleen woman, the one who emails us back from Hasci.... I actually thought she was just the secretary, but she is also a technician from Maastrict. Even more embarrassing, she is one of the two technicians who operated on me last year, I've always been shit with remembering names! She and Rolf will be the two technicians operating on me again this March in London. I only realised after seeing the staff photos: staff - hasci

[sanook]

hey guys i thought i should mention i'm booked in for surgery with dr gho in a few months. I do i lot of photography and i'm keen to document the treatment as clearly as possible. Hopefully I can get my hands on a good macro lens before hand...

I noticed the use of dotted tattoos to follow donar regrowth. Anyone got any other ideas for tracking donar regrowth?

Also, I'm a little concerned over one of the remarks someone made about how the donar hair grows back curly if its used more than once? This seems like a pretty big limitation to me? I think it was dismissed as a real issue because the chances of using that same graft more than once isn't likely? but if people are returning back to Dr Gho for this procedure 5 or more times wouldn't the chance be fairly likely that a portion of these grafts would be used more than once? isn't that the beauty of this procedure? virtually infinite donar supply?

Maybe it sounds stupid, but I guess I just don't like the idea of odd curly hairs? i'd like to know how curly they would be? are there any images to document this?

[Kiwi]

Does anyone know how big the company is?i know they have research division, 4 clinics or 5....how many employees?

Dr Gho is awsome scientist and crappy businessman just like Nikola Tesla was

On the contrary dear watson...

He's rich
He's fully booked

Probably doesnt give a **** about you. Or me. Or anybody that isnt booked to pay :P

[didi]

Does anyone know how big the company is?i know they have research division, 4 clinics or 5....how many employees?

Dr Gho is awsome scientist and crappy businessman just like Nikola Tesla was

[NeedHairASAP]

Ok lets get back to the subject. So dr Gho is the only doc n Marleen is the only one who speaks english. Im goin to give up emailing them as its takin ages to get answer back. Is marleen located in london or amsterdam so i give her a call?
Why theres no new clinics opening up as dr gho said they have lot of interested docs from arnd the wrld? If the tech wrks they need to market this better, rite now it sucks.

thats
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