RepliCel - Spencer Kobren's Follow Up Interview With CEO David Hall

[Kirby_]

In fact I've also heard him say something along the lines of "If you're just starting to lose your hair now, there's a very good chance you'll never have to live as a bald person" -- And he said this before replicel was even known (around the time histogen came out with their clinical trail results).

As a 30 year old who's only noticed hair loss within the last year and a but, I seriously hope he is true... I mean, there's bound to be something emerge, in terms of improved treatments, eventually.

[BoSox]

As a 30 year old who's only noticed hair loss within the last year and a but, I seriously hope he is true... I mean, there's bound to be something emerge, in terms of improved treatments, eventually.

I'm 27, and my thinning has gotten worse.. I hope this comes out soon because it seems like this kind of treatment will only be effective for those who are in the early stages of balding.. but i hope thats not the case and that it can turn a NW 6 to a NW 1.

grrrrrrrrrrr this is so ****ing stressfull.

[NeedHairASAP]

In fact I've also heard him say something along the lines of "If you're just starting to lose your hair now, there's a very good chance you'll never have to live as a bald person" -- And he said this before replicel was even known (around the time histogen came out with their clinical trail results)

so... histogen came out with a result 2 years ago... then spencer declares that people wont have to live as bald people... and this means what? other than spencer jumps the gun with guesses/statements faster than forum users?


my life blows and I can't wait until 2016-17 to recover it... I'm going to Gho this year and then hoping that (or maybe one or two more HSTs) last me til 2020 when they have real treatments ON THE MARKET.... I dont want nw1, I'd take a very mature hairline that looks reasonable when buzzed



its 2012... the chance is close to ZERO that any of these companies (going at the pace they are) get ANYTHING to THE ACTUAL MARKET in the next three years...

it's been two years since histogen released the single picture... they were saying we could get it in Asia in 2013 and well.... thats not going to happen... if it takes histogen two years to release a second sh*tty picture I can only imagine what were in for the next four years....


and to replicel, HELLO, quit waisting your time making cartoon pixar movies about how your garbage "floats around under the dermis" and magically finds sleeping folllicles... how about you just concentrate on giving some real results in the next year? i could really care less about videos with cartoons and Corporate management

[25 going on 65]

I think it was actually a reasonable prediction, if he specified people who are just starting to lose their hair.
With the Big 3, you can typically delay the progress of your hair loss by at least 5 years (10-15 for some). Dutasteride can extend that if finasteride loses effectiveness.
Also, just because your regimen starts losing efficacy, doesn't mean you have to start living as a bald person... it usually just means you'll be slowly losing ground over time. You'll still be much better off than with no treatments.
That's all to say nothing of transplants, which can extend the life of your hair by many years.

A NW2 today, who is determined to stop his hairloss, should definitely be able to hold out until 2020. By that point there will almost definitely be new, improved forms of treatment (even if they're not necessarily "cures"). Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but that's a criticism I'll gladly accept on this topic

It's all the generations of dudes before us who had this damn MPB gene, who I truly feel sorry for. This is the most hopeful time there has ever been to suffer from hair loss; we're really quite lucky when you consider our species has been around 100-250 thousand years, and we just happened to be born in the first generation that can really do something about genetic alopecia.

[chrisis]

we're really quite lucky when you consider our species has been around 100-250 thousand years, and we just happened to be born in the first generation that can really do something about genetic alopecia.

I think we're one of the first generations to give a shit about it. Before ours we were fighting wars and trying to feed families. We weren't brainwashed by media/society, telling us we're imperfect and that something is wrong with us because of our genes.

Hairloss is basically a "first world problem".

[2020]

so... histogen came out with a result 2 years ago... then spencer declares that people wont have to live as bald people... and this means what? other than spencer jumps the gun with guesses/statements faster than forum users?

Histogen was sued by SkinMedica so that wasted a lot of their time.
Also, during that time Histogen lost a lot of investors because they thought that Histogen would lose the case and without that patent their research could not continue.
Histogen won the case and resumed their studies. Results from their latest study are due in December 2012.

and to replicel, HELLO, quit waisting your time making cartoon pixar movies about how your garbage "floats around under the dermis" and magically finds sleeping folllicles... how about you just concentrate on giving some real results in the next year? i could really care less about videos with cartoons and Corporate management

go to YouTube and type in stem cells. If it can grow new fingers, I'm sure it can grow new follicles....

[jpm]

I think we're one of the first generations to give a shit about it. Before ours we were fighting wars and trying to feed families. We weren't brainwashed by media/society, telling us we're imperfect and that something is wrong with us because of our genes.

Hairloss is basically a "first world problem".

I agree, its a only a 'rich' problem, and I mean that in comparison to everyone else in the world.

I'm sure poorer people also care about hair loss, but in their priorities, feeding their family, not being killed, getting a job etc are much much bigger concerns, that baldness pales in comparison

[25 going on 65]

A sense of self-image is inherent in people and I think to some extent, there's always been someone around who cared about hair loss. But I'm sure it's true that it's a much less pressing concern for people with more immediate, dangerous issues. (Maslow's hierarchy of needs.)

Another thought- for most of the time our species has been here, the norm was to die in your teens or 20's, so the rate of genetic baldness was probably a lot lower.

[Tacola]

Has anyone tried to call them, or get in touch with them to hear that they acctually will give some information about the effectivnes of the injections, and not only information that shows that they are safe? I have tried to e-mail them, but since I`m in Scandinavia I dont feel like calling them

Crossing my fingers that this will give us some good news!! In the meantime I`m off to see Gho in mid august for a treatment. Hopefully this will give me another year or two with 1200 grafts planted on my head

[chrisis]

Another thought- for most of the time our species has been here, the norm was to die in your teens or 20's, so the rate of genetic baldness was probably a lot lower.

I think the high infant mortality rate skewed the average lifespan. I'm sure many lived into their 40s and beyond.

The strongest likelihood is that nobody cared anywhere near as much about vanity as we do today. We've been conditioned this way. Remember when you were a child and weren't vain at all? I reckon it was like that for your whole life at one point.

Of course it's all about getting a partner, but mating wasn't always about looks, it was about survival - although we do still have primal instincts in that regard.

[25 going on 65]

I was thinking "besides people who died as babies," but you could be right. My understanding of our stone age ancestors is that anyone who lived beyond 30-35 was old and rare. But obviously, I'm not an archeologist.
Either way, it's safe to say they were definitely less worried about hair loss (except maybe when it got really cold or really sunny... no aloe gel in those times).

I do remember being less vain as a child, but I think the bio/neuro changes that happen during puberty account for some of that. You start caring a lot more about what the opposite gender thinks of you.
Society is definitely a factor too though. Before mass media, good-looking people with amazing heads of hair would have only been known in their respective areas. Now the Brad Pitts of the world are plastered all over every magazine, website and TV station for us Norwood-Hamilton residents to envy. We're not just comparing ourselves with people in our immediate community anymore, but with people from all over the world.

At least the same technology advances that brought about this situation, allow us to bitch about it on TBT.

[Follicle Death Row]

So true about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. That's actually a great way of looking at the whole mpb self image thing. Everything is kind of relative to the environment you live in I guess.

[gmonasco]

Another thought- for most of the time our species has been here, the norm was to die in your teens or 20's, so the rate of genetic baldness was probably a lot lower.

Uh, no. You're confusing average life expectancy at birth (which until recent times skewed very low due to high infant/child mortality rates) with average lifespan (i.e., average life expectancy after attainment of adulthood). For a very long time now, the bulk of persons who survived childhood could expect to live well past their late teens/early 20s.

[ccmethinning]

So true about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. That's actually a great way of looking at the whole mpb self image thing. Everything is kind of relative to the environment you live in I guess.

I guess we should all move to Somalia.

[25 going on 65]

Uh, no. You're confusing average life expectancy at birth (which until recent times skewed very low due to high infant/child mortality rates) with average lifespan (i.e., average life expectancy after attainment of adulthood). For a very long time now, the bulk of persons who survived childhood could expect to live well past their late teens/early 20s.

chrisis brought this up also. According to wiki, a 1961 Encyclopedia Brittanica estimated the life expectancy for those who survived to 15 in the upper paleolithic era at 54. Going by that, it seems you'd both be right!

More prehistoric cue balls than I expected.