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  • uninformed
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 102

    Found records of the ISHRS alaska meeting

    The 19th Annual Scientific Meeting of the ISHRS was held in Anchorage, Alaksa in September of 2011. All scientific presentations are included in this final version of the Abstract Book. This was the first time the abstract book was available for download making the typically "luggable" document highly portable for those of us with ipads, etc. and saving the organization quite a bit on printing costs. --Dr. Alan J. Bauman M.D. Medical Director Bauman Medical Group of Boca Raton, FL


    Guess it's the newest info on the cutting edge treatments. Enjoy
  • uninformed
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 102

    #2
    I was right histogen was promoting another product to aid transplants, it's not the HSC they were talking about when they mentioned transplants....

    but the final result of the transplant procedure may be more successful byimproving the quality and health of the newly transplanted follicles and hairs. The aim of this research was toexamine a naturally-secreted, embryonic-like human cell conditioned media (hCCM) as a holding solution (FHS, orFollicular Holding Solution) for follicles from extraction to transplant

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1408

      #3
      Originally posted by uninformed
      I was right histogen was promoting another product to aid transplants, it's not the HSC they were talking about when they mentioned transplants....

      cool so histogen is worthless? I've been waiting for these assholes to do something for two years. There is not a chance in hell they have anything to offer before 2015..... in any country

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      • krewel
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 187

        #4
        Just asking, do they need something else in Europe when they finished Phase II? As far as I know, Phase III is only needed in the USA?

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        • HairTalk
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 252

          #5
          We all have yet to even hear from Histogen about H.S.C.: they haven't said mum since we were told they'd be starting the "phase I/II" trial, in June, 2011.

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          • uninformed
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 102

            #6
            Originally posted by HairTalk
            We all have yet to even hear from Histogen about H.S.C.: they haven't said mum since we were told they'd be starting the "phase I/II" trial, in June, 2011.
            Yeh, the point of my post was to debunk that histogen's HSC has been "downgraded" to a supplementry aid, I have no idea how people can interpret it as HSC is "useless" when I clearly stated that there is another product OTHER THAN THE HSC to aid donor skin healing ( or possibly follicles... who knows).

            Lets just wait for official word.

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            • DepressedByHairLoss
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 854

              #7
              I am much more interested in what HSC Complex can do on its own, rather than how it relates to hair transplants. And it really frustrates me when a lot of these doctors focus on stuff only related to hair transplants and not on any new and less-invasive method of hair regrowth. But hopefully HSC Complex will be that: a new and less-invasive method of hair regrowth, not simply moving hair from one place to another. And from what I can see, HSC Complex has already achieved great things. In their first place, they regenerated about 57 hairs per square cm, which I believe is more than any hair transplant can achieve, and they did it without any head scarring. And this was only in their safety/proof-of-concept trial; imagine what they could achieve when they compound the stuff for maximum efficacy. Stuff like the HSC Complex is what we really need; I wish there were more potential solutions like HSC out there.

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              • Follicle Death Row
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1058

                #8
                Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                I am much more interested in what HSC Complex can do on its own, rather than how it relates to hair transplants. And it really frustrates me when a lot of these doctors focus on stuff only related to hair transplants and not on any new and less-invasive method of hair regrowth. But hopefully HSC Complex will be that: a new and less-invasive method of hair regrowth, not simply moving hair from one place to another. And from what I can see, HSC Complex has already achieved great things. In their first place, they regenerated about 57 hairs per square cm, which I believe is more than any hair transplant can achieve, and they did it without any head scarring. And this was only in their safety/proof-of-concept trial; imagine what they could achieve when they compound the stuff for maximum efficacy. Stuff like the HSC Complex is what we really need; I wish there were more potential solutions like HSC out there.
                57 hairs per square cm is about 25FU/cm2 so it's about the density they sprinkle into the crown in nw6 restorations if not a bit less. It's a start though.

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                • RichardDawkins
                  Inactive
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 895

                  #9
                  Well as i said before i can tell you what the next interview will look like

                  1) Appeasement
                  2) Downplaying the fear of people here
                  3)Silently implement the idea that HSC will be only additional to hair transplants

                  I am really looking forward to th interview if i wa right, especially with saying that Histogens HSC wont be what people want it to be

                  PS: There short " We update our webite dont worry" statement has jumped the shark, they did not include the clinical trial timeline anymore-

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                  • Jundam
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 110

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                    Well as i said before i can tell you what the next interview will look like

                    1) Appeasement
                    2) Downplaying the fear of people here
                    3)Silently implement the idea that HSC will be only additional to hair transplants

                    I am really looking forward to th interview if i wa right, especially with saying that Histogens HSC wont be what people want it to be

                    PS: There short " We update our webite dont worry" statement has jumped the shark, they did not include the clinical trial timeline anymore-
                    Will you just give it a ****ing rest Dawkins? I don't care what you think about Histogen, I don't care what you think you know about Histogen, and I'm quite certain nobody else here does either.

                    It's okay if you don't believe it will help anybody; But you never add anything useful to any conversation regarding it. If all you're going to do is spew illiterate, nonsensical and unfounded garbage then please stick to the Dr. Gho threads. He's the only one who means anything anyway, right?

                    Leave the Histogen, Replicel, Follica and Aderans threads for those who believe they could be the answer.

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                    • uninformed
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 102

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                      Well as i said before i can tell you what the next interview will look like

                      1) Appeasement
                      2) Downplaying the fear of people here
                      3)Silently implement the idea that HSC will be only additional to hair transplants

                      I am really looking forward to th interview if i wa right, especially with saying that Histogens HSC wont be what people want it to be

                      PS: There short " We update our webite dont worry" statement has jumped the shark, they did not include the clinical trial timeline anymore-
                      Whilst I do have abit of respect for you, this is completely false as far as what the information says... the Follicle holding solution (FHS) is the one that compliments a transplant.

                      Please stop spreading rumours, I found the excerpts and posted to specifically to show everyone that HSC is NOT going to be used only to aid transplants.

                      Also - http://www.histogen.com/products/clinical_status.htm

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1087

                        #12
                        Yeah come on Richard... You're like a sensationalist journalist with an agenda. You really should stick to the Gho posts and let the HSC hopefuls enjoy this side of the fence.

                        By the way if you are reading this there is no peer reviewed studies on Gho. His scientific paper was written by himself. That isn't a scientific paper that might as well be a theory.

                        Don't go Gho folks. You'll be left with split (dead) hair follicles.

                        Or....

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                        • RichardDawkins
                          Inactive
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 895

                          #13
                          Hey Kiwi read this



                          Yeah 2300 Grafts extracted on this small head and still no visible thinning out effect. Seems Gho had left this poor boy with dead follicles, especially on the forehead, man if i would be that boy i would totally blieve Kiwi and not listen to an asociation of burning victims, i mean what do they know right? Kiwi is our man, big mouth and just a fluke of warm air, thats it.

                          They harvested over 2300 Grafts on this boy and his donor after 4 sessions looks somehow hmmmmm regulare in patterns of donor hair, no visible thinning and they showed this case at a meeting...... and stressed out the "full donor regeneration" thing with the remakr " he can have more sessions in the future"

                          Kiwi i hereby lost all respect for you, you are on the same level like a shill

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                          • Kiwi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1087

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                            Hey Kiwi read this



                            Yeah 2300 Grafts extracted on this small head and still no visible thinning out effect. Seems Gho had left this poor boy with dead follicles, especially on the forehead, man if i would be that boy i would totally blieve Kiwi and not listen to an asociation of burning victims, i mean what do they know right? Kiwi is our man, big mouth and just a fluke of warm air, thats it.

                            They harvested over 2300 Grafts on this boy and his donor after 4 sessions looks somehow hmmmmm regulare in patterns of donor hair, no visible thinning and they showed this case at a meeting...... and stressed out the "full donor regeneration" thing with the remakr " he can have more sessions in the future"

                            Kiwi i hereby lost all respect for you, you are on the same level like a shill
                            Thats funny. The guy who has had more people loose respect for him, in the history of online forums, has lost respect in me,.... for doing what he does. :P

                            I'm sorry you feel that way Richard. But lets be honest... I'm only trying to suggest you leave the Gho stuff for the Gho threads and if you don't feel HSC is going to work... well we heard you the first time. Its just annoying for people to keep reading the same stuff from you over and over.

                            I'm actually doing my own Gho enquiries. I'm only saying this stuff because it annoys you in the same way you're annoying people that believe in HSC.

                            I really hope you can see the sense in what I'm saying, it occurred to me after our last rant that you and I have the same goals so we shouldnt be fighting. To that effect none of us should, so why would you continue a behavior that you know bums people out...

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                            • Kiwi
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1087

                              #15
                              Hey Richard,

                              Are you talking about the english version of the site of the non english... I don't know what 2300 grafts person you're talking about. Whats the name of the person so I can click on him.

                              Surely not scissorboy because his profile is a joke.

                              He wasnt even balding and it just gets in the way of seeing photographs of people who are actually past N1... This is an issue with lots of HT sites though. It just annoying people with more pressing hair loss :P

                              - not sent from my iPhone or iPad but sent from my shiny macbook instead

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