Gho's 'franchise' model - up and running?

[RichardDawkins]

Well then ell then, instead of Dropping the F Bomb on me, DEMAND this from your clinics, cancel your appointments, ring them, dont email them they will throw those emails away.

Make your actions count

[NeedHairASAP]

Well the thing is, they are definitely not short of patients. They have lots of publicity, they are booked until mid 2012 (at least in London), so why would they bother coming to a forum?

Another thing. Gho has given an interview where he answered Spencer's questions. Gho has published a journal, where he's argued that the donor regenerates - he provided close up photos and detailed his technique. As far as I know, none of his peers has shot down his article.

I am just trying to be logical here. What on earth could make him come and spend time here? He does TV shows because it's great publicity, but he's got absolutely no obligation to come here and entertain a bunch of guys who are sceptical about him. He's making good money and he's developing new techniques - like the stem cell injection thing.

Dunno man. I personally think he's onto something and that HSI will get bigger with time, unless one of the new cutting edge companies delivers a better product to the market (which I very much hope will happen).

if people email their prospective surgeons and ask for HST or ask about it then the transition will be faster

[Ronin]

Well the thing is, they are definitely not short of patients. They have lots of publicity, they are booked until mid 2012 (at least in London), so why would they bother coming to a forum?

Another thing. Gho has given an interview where he answered Spencer's questions. Gho has published a journal, where he's argued that the donor regenerates - he provided close up photos and detailed his technique. As far as I know, none of his peers has shot down his article.

I am just trying to be logical here. What on earth could make him come and spend time here? He does TV shows because it's great publicity, but he's got absolutely no obligation to come here and entertain a bunch of guys who are sceptical about him. He's making good money and he's developing new techniques - like the stem cell injection thing.

Dunno man. I personally think he's onto something and that HSI will get bigger with time, unless one of the new cutting edge companies delivers a better product to the market (which I very much hope will happen).

[mlao]

And? Do those investors give you back your hair? Nope they wont.

Stop turning everyones statements around.
I'm not going to argue. You believe that Dr. Gho holds the key and I respect your right to that opinion. However until there is peer reviewed assessment that he is doing what he claims the jury is still out.
Trust me we all want HST to work.
The problem is a lot of people come on to forums and post their opinions as facts when they are not facts.
I think HSI would do themselves a great service if they had a doctor's representative come to the forums to answer questions. And please don't tell me they are too busy. If they can present their procedures on a weekly Dutch TV show they can certainly come to TBTF and show some case studies and answer questions like other doctors do.

[Ronin]

And? Do those investors give you back your hair? Nope they wont.

Of course they do. without their money there would be no research. without research, there would be no breakthrough.

[RichardDawkins]

And? Do those investors give you back your hair? Nope they wont.

[mlao]

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Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
WHO and from WHERE did guys here have informations about some "Delay" i didnt find anything here.

Who started this rumors
Sorry for my absence but this is the latest "official word" on Histogen.
We're starting to recruit first week in June in Singapore, total of 50 pts. As a reminder each patient gets 8 injections of control and HSC anterior and posterior. The posterior gets a second set of 8 injections at week 6.

There has been limited case studies going on in Japan but they have been hampered by all the events there.

Unfortunately this stuff happens very slowly(which equally dissappoints and frustrates me ) and everyone has to be very careful with what they say and report because there are many people hanging on to every word. I know that many of my colleagues are searching for solutions and I am confident that we will bring help and hope to many hairloss sufferers but we have to be patient or we derail these projects before that really get going .

I cant respond to this thread daily but I assure you I will update you and Spencer with any new worthwhile information that I get.

I thank you all for your support,patience and interest.

I went thru the entire Histogen thread. The earthquake was mentioned once.
All it said was there were limited case studies that were hampered in Japan.
Now I know they haven't started the trials in Singapore but they have not emphatically said they have closed down their research.
My point here is to let them tell us what's going on when they have something tangible and stop relying on rumors.
And quite honestly I think the last place Histogen needs to promote themselves is on a hair loss forum.
They need to be presenting their work to investors who will kick in millions.

[RichardDawkins]

Just browse through Histogen threads and you will stumble upon them.

Hey Krewel, cool story bro, that you will stay bald till your old while we others will have our hair

[mlao]

Funny how baldies subsstitute their own reality.

The last weeks? Where did i scream? Was it not you gus with the constant F bomb towards me? Like white trash trailer park guys?

I only say as i see it. And while Gho with his "secrets" performs this, Histogen comes up with excuses why they cant say much? Really? Here are their ecuses

1) japanes earthquake
2) Authorities dont want people to talk that much about their stuff? Well but before they were raising money, they were very open about what this does and what not

Also why go to a congress then and present hair TRANSPLANTERS their findings but not us?

Yes call me psycho or drop the f bomb , but the Histogen as you may want it, is gone.

Does anyone have a direct link to a quote from Histogen not from any forum poster where they say the earthquake slowed their progress?

[krewel]

Funny how baldies subsstitute their own reality.

The last weeks? Where did i scream? Was it not you gus with the constant F bomb towards me? Like white trash trailer park guys?

I only say as i see it. And while Gho with his "secrets" performs this, Histogen comes up with excuses why they cant say much? Really? Here are their ecuses

1) japanes earthquake
2) Authorities dont want people to talk that much about their stuff? Well but before they were raising money, they were very open about what this does and what not

Also why go to a congress then and present hair TRANSPLANTERS their findings but not us?

Yes call me psycho or drop the f bomb , but the Histogen as you may want it, is gone.

Cool story bro.

[RichardDawkins]

Funny how baldies subsstitute their own reality.

The last weeks? Where did i scream? Was it not you gus with the constant F bomb towards me? Like white trash trailer park guys?

I only say as i see it. And while Gho with his "secrets" performs this, Histogen comes up with excuses why they cant say much? Really? Here are their ecuses

1) japanes earthquake
2) Authorities dont want people to talk that much about their stuff? Well but before they were raising money, they were very open about what this does and what not

Also why go to a congress then and present hair TRANSPLANTERS their findings but not us?

Yes call me psycho or drop the f bomb , but the Histogen as you may want it, is gone.

[Losing_It]

Well of course there's no results yet. We're just making the point that the cellular based techniques of Aderans, Replicel etc are in fact a form of tissue engineering. HM is tissue engineering.

I wanted to point out this fact to him ages ago, but he was screaming so loud these past few weeks, that I just couldn't bother. One would imagine Dawkins would familiar himself with what Tissue Engineering actually entails before starting a shouting contest. The thing is I am not even certain whether or not Gho's technique really qualifies as Tissue Engineering.

[RichardDawkins]

Thats not correct, there is tissue engineering which is focussed on the natural healing and regeneration abilities and we have the injectibles, which are reJUVENATING existing follicles.

There is a difference

[Follicle Death Row]

Well then, if this is called tissue engineering, let me know where the results are besides fance Flash movies then

Well of course there's no results yet. We're just making the point that the cellular based techniques of Aderans, Replicel etc are in fact a form of tissue engineering. HM is tissue engineering.

[RichardDawkins]

Well then, if this is called tissue engineering, let me know where the results are besides fance Flash movies then