Astressin B Test Update

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  • Thinning@30
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 316

    #31
    Although I think Astressin b shows a lot of promise. I think we all should be very skeptical of any recently released products that claim to treat hair loss with it. To date, Astressin b has not gone through rigorous FDA trials designed to establish its safety and efficacy. For any such product, we should apply our usual skepticism: where are the high quality before and after photos? Where are the testimonials? Where are the independent reviews of the product from long time users?

    Also remember that in the study the mice received subcutaneous injections not topical applications. It is not clear if topical applications even worked in a mouse model. We also don't know anything about what appropriate doses or delivery mechanisms for humans might be.

    Don't get me wrong, I think Astressin b is very promising as a future hair loss treatment, but I am concerned about unscrupulous companies trying to sell untested products (that might not even contain astressin b). Not only could people get ripped off, but I wouldn't want people to give up on a promising line of research due to bad experiences with dishonest companies selling dubious products, that for all we know are based on flawed doses and delivery mechanisms.

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    • Cory
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 32

      #32
      People at hairloss research are not gonna conduct trials on humans, so what's the point on trials anyway, still if this could work on humans, it would be years and years before this could hit the market and someone company is already offering topical.

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      • BoSox
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 708

        #33
        **** arsetressin bee


        Its all about GHO and Replicel.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1410

          #34
          Originally posted by Cory
          People at hairloss research are not gonna conduct trials on humans, so what's the point on trials anyway, still if this could work on humans, it would be years and years before this could hit the market and someone company is already offering topical.

          we could see it in maybe 3 or 4 years

          also if it works they will make it in korea or something well before FDA gets to phase II

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          • thechamp
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1770

            #35
            Spectral Dnc formula 7

            What about spectral Dnc formula 7 looks interesting and will it be safe

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            • PaulC
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 53

              #36
              Topical Astressin-b

              This is supposed to be available in the coming weeks.
              I have not heard any reports that it is unsafe and apparently there is no shedding. Has anybody any plans to give it a go?

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2627

                #37
                Once bitten twice shy. I'll wait for some of you lot to try it before I do

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                • BoSox
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 708

                  #38
                  I thought this stuff is only if hairloss is due to stress?

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                  • bmartin1134
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 14

                    #39
                    I have been doing a sort of home made remedy. Its a mixture of DMSO, allantoin and phosphatidylserine. phosphatidylserine is supposed to act as a CRF blocker similar to astressin-b. You can check out my progress at http://homehairgrow.blogspot.com/

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                    • krewel
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 188

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bmartin1134
                      I have been doing a sort of home made remedy. Its a mixture of DMSO, allantoin and phosphatidylserine. phosphatidylserine is supposed to act as a CRF blocker similar to astressin-b. You can check out my progress at http://homehairgrow.blogspot.com/
                      Sorry, but are you insane? You can't just test some compounds on yourself, even if it's just topical. I think I don't need to explain why, no matter how depressed you are. There are even guys who are injecting themselves with Astressin B. That is totally over the hill, not from this world..

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                      • bmartin1134
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 14

                        #41
                        Originally posted by krewel
                        Sorry, but are you insane? You can't just test some compounds on yourself, even if it's just topical. I think I don't need to explain why, no matter how depressed you are. There are even guys who are injecting themselves with Astressin B. That is totally over the hill, not from this world..
                        All these ingredients are available at a mothers market and have already proved over many years their safety. These aren't new un-researched compounds. This isn't any different than taking these ingredients in pill form. I have only compounded them into a topical solution for 'hopefully' targeted delivery.

                        I am not depressed either. I am lucky enough to look ok with a shaved head. Experimentation is more of a hobby for me. Most of human regenerative medicine wouldn't be anywhere today if people weren't experimenting.

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                        • PaulC
                          Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 53

                          #42
                          Spectral.F7

                          Has anybody found anywhere that is actually selling Spectral.F7 yet?
                          According to DS Labs it is supposed to be available this month.

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                          • PaulC
                            Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 53

                            #43
                            Done some more digging…here is a quote from a site today which shows the latest news. So expect it to be available end Oct

                            Preorders now being taken. Orders will be held till stock arrival. Latest word is the lab is still doing some testing and the wearhouse is waiting for it's arrival. We have presold 40 of the 60 units I will receive in the initial order. Looking at about 2 weeks to get shipped to us.

                            I think that initial sales for this product are going to be absolutely mega and all the initial supplies will probably be taken up by pre-orders so it may be a while before it can be purchased regularly and added to your regime.

                            I also wonder if DS Labs is getting a bit worried about the amount of publicity that this stuff is creating. It is only a relatively small company and they might not be geared up to deliver a product that is going global. And they still call it a ‘booster’. I’m not too sure what that means.

                            I hope that they get it together and deliver a product that works. One thing for sure is that there is going to be no lack of feedback concerning its efficacy.

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                            • bmartin1134
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 14

                              #44
                              New Pics

                              I have put up some new pics.

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                              • Pate
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 427

                                #45
                                Originally posted by PaulC
                                I also wonder if DS Labs is getting a bit worried about the amount of publicity that this stuff is creating. It is only a relatively small company and they might not be geared up to deliver a product that is going global.
                                I doubt they're 'worried'! Ecstatic at the expectation, more like. DS have really raced to get this product out first. I'm stunned at how quick they've commercialised it. Surely they are only able to do this because the compound has a known safety profile, because otherwise the FDA would come down on them like a ton of bricks. From one mouse study straight to market release? Not likely!

                                So assuming they have the safety profile, then good luck to them. I am quite favourable towards DS Labs because I've had good results with DNC. I recognise that if I buy this F7 product there is absolutely no human evidence to back it up but that's not how DS work. If it's safe and you want to use it, DS can get it to you and you can trust they've acted in good faith on the published science available.


                                Originally posted by PaulC
                                I hope that they get it together and deliver a product that works. One thing for sure is that there is going to be no lack of feedback concerning its efficacy.
                                Yeah, if it works well we'll know about pretty quickly. I'm still not convinced that the mechanism for stress applies to MPB but I've read there's some theoretical basis for hoping it will apply.

                                Since I already use DNC-L I'll consider F7 depending on what I read from others. But as I said I'm pretty positive towards DS, they were the first place I read about apple procyanidins and how they have been as effective as minox in some studies but also work on the hairline. I was sceptical but what convinced me to give it a try was that DS publish the studies they're basing their claims off, unlike most. So I read the studies (which had no relation to DS, they were independent) and they were pretty positive, so I gave it a go. Four months after starting it, I've got about half an inch of fine but dark hair coming in along my hairline, exactly as they said, which I never got from my fin and minox regime. Also a few terminal hairs coming in there too (could count them on my fingers, but they're definitely there and definitely new growth).

                                No cosmetic value yet of course but when a small lab like DS can induce more hair growth on me than the entire world of Big Pharma, I consider that pretty noteworthy.

                                (Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting everyone rush out and buy DNC and/or F7. Growth has been minor as I said and the stuff is pricier than minox and much more annoying to put on. This stuff will not solve your baldness problem )

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