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  • gmonasco
    Inactive
    • Apr 2010
    • 865

    Originally posted by Supersixx
    keep in mind that men are outnumbered 6-1
    Where? In a women's prison?

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      Originally posted by gmonasco
      Where? In a women's prison?
      I think I will be out-weighted 6-1 by the woman I end up with.

      Just better not let her go on top eh.

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      • MackJames
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 165

        I'm not defending Replicel or their results, which to be fair are not good at all. Regardless of the abysmal results, there are a lot of interesting questions yet to be answered, some of which have been mentioned before.


        What will happen to those vellus hairs over time?

        How would the vellus hairs be affected by repeated injections, if at all?

        Is the treatment compoundable?

        Does the treatment inoculate the native hairs from DHT?

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          Originally posted by MackJames
          I'm not defending Replicel or their results, which to be fair are not good at all. Regardless of the abysmal results, there are a lot of interesting questions yet to be answered, some of which have been mentioned before.


          What will happen to those vellus hairs over time?

          How would the vellus hairs be affected by repeated injections, if at all?
          As I understand things, say every single one of those vellus hairs turns terminal. Meaning a 12.5% increase in terminal hairs. This is on par with minox results, correct? i.e. by no means any better than current hair treatments, best case scenario?

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          • PinotQ
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 186

            Clandestine, On the surface I would say that is probabably close to best case scenario not taking into account a possible compounding and/or innoculative effect. But I am very curious to hear from David Hall as what their thinking is regarding why further development could take this to a meaningful level of effectiveness. Because, IMO, their veracity has been damaged by the advertising fiasco, I would like to hear and see how they address this, as oppossed to just what they say. In other words, do they really believe there is a reasonable possibility that they could substantially improve effectiveness or is this just a play to draw this out so insiders can gradually sell the millions of shares of stock they all have. A portion of their stock gets released each quarter.

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            • jpm
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 248

              Originally posted by clandestine
              As I understand things, say every single one of those vellus hairs turns terminal. Meaning a 12.5% increase in terminal hairs. This is on par with minox results, correct? i.e. by no means any better than current hair treatments, best case scenario?
              Well its better in the sense that there should be no sides, no constant application 2x daily, it will work on everyone, the hairs will be permanent and it could be compoundable.

              All assumptions at this stage, but if that is the case then it is better than current treatments....price excluded

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              • The Alchemist
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 261

                Originally posted by clandestine
                As I understand things, say every single one of those vellus hairs turns terminal. Meaning a 12.5% increase in terminal hairs. This is on par with minox results, correct? i.e. by no means any better than current hair treatments, best case scenario?
                Actually that would put terminals over 15%, remember, they showed 3.1% increase in terminals. And if compoundable, then the procedure would be worth something. If it's not compoundable, then it's not going to be worth the money they'd have to charge to get the treatment done. It will not be marketable.

                And it also depends on if their results are long lasting, unlike minox which a) doesn't last long after you stop, b) does nothing to interfere with the balding process, and c) completely sucks a$$ to drench your head in the crap twice a day. So there still may be a way forward for Replicel, but it certainly looks pretty grim with this as a starting point.


                Gotta say, i'm liking Follica's approach more and more. Keep silent, work hard and get something that is effective before you run your mouth.

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                • jpm
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 248

                  Originally posted by The Alchemist
                  Actually that would put terminals over 15%, remember, they showed 3.1% increase in terminals. And if compoundable, then the procedure would be worth something. If it's not compoundable, then it's not going to be worth the money they'd have to charge to get the treatment done. It will not be marketable.

                  And it also depends on if their results are long lasting, unlike minox which a) doesn't last long after you stop, b) does nothing to interfere with the balding process, and c) completely sucks a$$ to drench your head in the crap twice a day. So there still may be a way forward for Replicel, but it certainly looks pretty grim with this as a starting point.


                  Gotta say, i'm liking Follica's approach more and more. Keep silent, work hard and get something that is effective before you run your mouth.
                  Whats the situation with Follica then?? I know so little about them lol

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                  • clandestine
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2002

                    Great, thanks for the insightful replies alchemist, jpm, pinotq.

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                    • paulsreef
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 11

                      Originally posted by Supersixx
                      Also a sense of humor TRUMPS anything a person can offer.......
                      Also, women are more interested in how much attention we pay them, and hearing how beautiful we think they are. Paying more attention to your hair than them won't even get you to first base.

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                      • ccmethinning
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 317

                        Originally posted by paulsreef
                        Also, women are more interested in how much attention we pay them, and hearing how beautiful we think they are. Paying more attention to your hair than them won't even get you to first base.
                        Women are only interested in attention from men they consider worthy. All others are just creeps (unconfident, depressed, suicidal bald guys.)

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                        • Gjm127
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 170

                          Sorry for the noob question:

                          Did Histogen and Aderans complete phase 1 clinical trials?
                          If so, how do they compare to Replicel?

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                          • paulsreef
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 11

                            Maybe we should start an occupy movement? Occupy barber shops, hair salons, shampoo aisles at pharmacies; until we get a cure.

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                            • Gjm127
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 170

                              Guys, just relax about these results...
                              They are positive results, as in: safety results were met. This will now help them move on to Phase 2, where they can look for OPTIMAL DOSES.

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                              • NeedHairASAP
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1408

                                Originally posted by Gjm127
                                Guys, just relax about these results...
                                They are positive results, as in: safety results were met. This will now help them move on to Phase 2, where they can look for OPTIMAL DOSES.
                                it was for efficacy too

                                and they had projected, or hoped for, 20% increases


                                so..... doesn't mean you shouldn't relax...

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