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  • KJ1982
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 54

    Originally posted by Thinning87
    where? I don't see it
    It's under "Hair Loss", "Hair Loss FAQ's" and is near the bottom of the page...

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    • Thinning87
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 839

      Originally posted by KJ1982
      It's under "Hair Loss", "Hair Loss FAQ's" and is near the bottom of the page...
      Thank you!

      Well, activity is better than no activity, so I can say I am kind of satisfied. We'll see what their results from Phase 2 yield.

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      • KJ1982
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 54

        No problem, Thinning87!

        Hopefully Replicel will provide us with some interesting and exciting results. I understand that there are some here on the forums that aren't all too hopeful so far as Replicel are concerned. However, whilst my knowledge about their current progress is (admittedly) wanting, so far as I can tell the science sounds promising...
        Last edited by KJ1982; 03-05-2013, 09:28 PM. Reason: Spelling correction.

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        • Thinning87
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 839

          Originally posted by KJ1982
          No problem, Thinning87!

          Hopefully Replicel will provide us with some interesting and exciting results. I understand that there are some here on the forums that aren't all too hopeful so far as Replicel are concerned. However, whilst my knowledge about their current progress is (admittedly) wanting, so far as I can tell the science sounds promising...
          Ah well, we got a couple years ahead of us in which we hopefully will hear some developments. I don't really believe any of the timelines out there (especially Replicel being available in 2015... yeah right!) but if we have at least a bit of luck, at least one of the the new treatments will be confirmed for realease at some point in the future, and combined with a good HT it'd be a great advancement.

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          • KJ1982
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 54

            Originally posted by Thinning87
            Ah well, we got a couple years ahead of us in which we hopefully will hear some developments. I don't really believe any of the timelines out there (especially Replicel being available in 2015... yeah right!) but if we have at least a bit of luck, at least one of the the new treatments will be confirmed for realease at some point in the future, and combined with a good HT it'd be a great advancement.
            Well, whatever the case may be with regards to (expected) release of any potential future treatment, for better or worse none of them are too far away from us now.

            If Replicel produces good results in regrowing hair and it does prove to be only a couple of years away then it would be a huge weight off my mind knowing that, no matter what happens, I can regain what I have lost.

            KJ.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by KJ1982
              Well, whatever the case may be with regards to (expected) release of any potential future treatment, for better or worse none of them are too far away from us now.

              If Replicel produces good results in regrowing hair and it does prove to be only a couple of years away then it would be a huge weight off my mind knowing that, no matter what happens, I can regain what I have lost.

              KJ.
              Thats a big assumption though because none of us really know what kind of results to expect from Replicel. Of course, I'm only playing devils advocate but only because their Phase I safety trials proved to be very disappointing. However, Phase II results will give us a much better picture. Lets hope they get some serious results

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              • yagazooci
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 22

                Originally posted by Thinning87
                where? I don't see it
                Mybad. It was on the Replicel Facebook site that I got that piece about "why only men this time". Sorry. They all look similar I guess. Anyway it seems to be posted there in another area of the site too. Thanks

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                • KJ1982
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 54

                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  Thats a big assumption though because none of us really know what kind of results to expect from Replicel. Of course, I'm only playing devils advocate but only because their Phase I safety trials proved to be very disappointing. However, Phase II results will give us a much better picture. Lets hope they get some serious results
                  Oh, of course; it's a huge assumption on my part.

                  However, at the risk of stating the obvious it has to be said that to form a conclusion based around Phase I trial data is rather premature; Phase I trials are only intended to establish whether or not a treatment is safe. As you said, Phase II results shall give us a much clearer understanding as to the potential efficacy of this new treatment.

                  Besides, even if it's established that this proposed treatment doesn't hold the key to reversing hair loss we will still have valuable data that could prove essential to finding the actual solution further on down the line.

                  As Thomas Edison once said, "I have not failed. I've just found ten thousand ways that won't work."

                  I understand that those words will provide little comfort to some, though every step we take, whatever the result, is a step in the right direction and brings us closer to solving this problem once and for all.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by KJ1982
                    Oh, of course; it's a huge assumption on my part.

                    However, at the risk of stating the obvious it has to be said that to form a conclusion based around Phase I trial data is rather premature; Phase I trials are only intended to establish whether or not a treatment is safe. As you said, Phase II results shall give us a much clearer understanding as to the potential efficacy of this new treatment.

                    Besides, even if it's established that this proposed treatment doesn't hold the key to reversing hair loss we will still have valuable data that could prove essential to finding the actual solution further on down the line.

                    As Thomas Edison once said, "I have not failed. I've just found ten thousand ways that won't work."

                    I understand that those words will provide little comfort to some, though every step we take, whatever the result, is a step in the right direction and brings us closer to solving this problem once and for all.
                    I honestly see no point in going through with efforts from Aderans, Histogen or Replicel... or all combined when we know Dr. Roland Lauster has cultured follicles WITH hair in a petri dish. All the others are now rendered useless by Dr. Lauster's holy grail so why are there still efforts being made with the other guys when we know we've got a legitimate solution?

                    Now I know the other guys want money at this point, but in an ideal world all efforts would be made towards Dr. Lausters work and get it out the door.

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                    • KJ1982
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 54

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      I honestly see no point in going through with efforts from Aderans, Histogen or Replicel... or all combined when we know Dr. Roland Lauster has cultured follicles WITH hair in a petri dish. All the others are now rendered useless by Dr. Lauster's holy grail so why are there still efforts being made with the other guys when we know we've got a legitimate solution?

                      Now I know the other guys want money at this point, but in an ideal world all efforts would be made towards Dr. Lausters work and get it out the door.
                      Oh, I agree totally; Dr. Lauster has done what others have not and, so far as we can see, has the solution.

                      However, as you said, people are out to make money; this is, after all, a business. Perhaps those companies that we know of are seeking to get their products out before Dr. Lauster brings his method to market? Perhaps they consider their treatment(s) as a temporary solution until a more permanent treatment is available? Or perhaps they have already anticipated the availability of a procedure such as Dr. Lauster's becoming commercially available and are aiming at a totally different market...?

                      Whatever the case, short of asking those behind the treatments directly why they're dedicating such vast resources and sums of money to what seems to be, at this moment in time, a "pointless" (and I use the term loosely) pursuit we shall never know.

                      I'm just glad that there are numerous treatments in development, whatever the outcome.

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                      • garethbale
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 603

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        I honestly see no point in going through with efforts from Aderans, Histogen or Replicel... or all combined when we know Dr. Roland Lauster has cultured follicles WITH hair in a petri dish. All the others are now rendered useless by Dr. Lauster's holy grail so why are there still efforts being made with the other guys when we know we've got a legitimate solution?

                        Now I know the other guys want money at this point, but in an ideal world all efforts would be made towards Dr. Lausters work and get it out the door.
                        Why doesn't someone contact Dr Lauster to ask what he's currently up to. I found his email online (this is publicly available) Roland.Lauster@TU-Berlin.de

                        I'm not sure if he speaks English though

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                        • KJ1982
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 54

                          Originally posted by garethbale
                          Why doesn't someone contact Dr Lauster to ask what he's currently up to. I found his email online (this is publicly available) Roland.Lauster@TU-Berlin.de

                          I'm not sure if he speaks English though
                          I may be mistaken, garethbale, but I'm sure that I've read that people have tried contacting Dr. Lauster and that he has not replied.

                          Why that may be remains a mystery but I suspect that it may have something to do with the fact that the Berlin Technical University is involved with his research; perhaps he is not allowed to reply, instead having the university deal with enquiries via their press/media department?

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                          • garethbale
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 603

                            Originally posted by KJ1982
                            I may be mistaken, garethbale, but I'm sure that I've read that people have tried contacting Dr. Lauster and that he has not replied.

                            Why that may be remains a mystery but I suspect that it may have something to do with the fact that the Berlin Technical University is involved with his research; perhaps he is not allowed to reply, instead having the university deal with enquiries via their press/media department?
                            I doubt he would respond separately to individuals, it would probably be done offficially through the university, as you say. Whatever the reason, his lack of response doesn't surprise me.

                            Wasn't the hair grown a mouse hair though? I read that they had accomplished creation of a mouse's follicle and that they were going to start on human follicles (the article was dated Dec 2010).

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                            • KJ1982
                              Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 54

                              Originally posted by garethbale
                              Wasn't the hair grown a mouse hair though? I read that they had accomplished creation of a mouse's follicle and that they were going to start on human follicles (the article was dated Dec 2010).
                              So far as I can remember (meaning I may be wrong), to the best of my knowledge that was indeed the case, yes.

                              It's a shame that no more has been heard about the matter, but I'm very much hoping that research is continuing for hair restoration applications; the research also has potential uses regarding pharmaceutical testing, etc.

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                              • 25 going on 65
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1476

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                I honestly see no point in going through with efforts from Aderans, Histogen or Replicel... or all combined when we know Dr. Roland Lauster has cultured follicles WITH hair in a petri dish. All the others are now rendered useless by Dr. Lauster's holy grail so why are there still efforts being made with the other guys when we know we've got a legitimate solution?

                                Now I know the other guys want money at this point, but in an ideal world all efforts would be made towards Dr. Lausters work and get it out the door.
                                There is no legitimate solution until we can walk in, pay money and have a procedure done to restore hair. If there was a legitimate solution here and now then he other companies might close shop.

                                Not trying to argue, just saying, there is a huge leap between a working experiment and a treatment we can actually use....

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