Footballer Wesley Sneijder had hair multiplication with Dr. Gho

[NeedHairASAP]

The sad thing is, Peter van der Vorst (another Dutch celebrity) also just went to Gho for a transplant...it will take some time before it grows though, he just did it last week I thought...?

thanks dutch keep us posted on stuff like this if you can


I tried to find some before after photos but no luck yet

[Follicle Death Row]

Gho did go into it a bit in the Spencer interview. What I took from it was that you could not keep going over the same area of donor repeatedly because the small scarring builds up under the skin. I bet the regeneration rate drops off after each harvest. 90, 60, 40 or something like that. Who knows? I think the court case clarified that they are multiplying and not splitting hairs but it doesn't sound like they can keep reharvesting the same follicle over and over. Suppose it's still a waiting game.

[NeedHairASAP]

Gho did go into it a bit in the Spencer interview. What I took from it was that you could not keep going over the same area of donor repeatedly because the small scarring builds up under the skin. I bet the regeneration rate drops off after each harvest. 90, 60, 40 or something like that. Who knows? I think the court case clarified that they are multiplying and not splitting hairs but it doesn't sound like they can keep reharvesting the same follicle over and over. Suppose it's still a waiting game.

I think that you are correct that the rates will eventually drop off but I'm not so sure if they are that dramatic

I sent an email explicitly asking if the same follicular unit can be extracted again after it regenerates and received a yes... however im sure you can only expect so much after that second time

I also believe that Gho will be responding in some way shape or form to umar's criticism in the near future

[Follicle Death Row]

I'm with you on that. I don't believe the Hair Science Institute would risk everything by splitting hairs and the regeneration rate probably drops off. Intuitively you would think so anyway.

18000-20000 FU in the donor. Imagine if in the future every follicular unit could be harvested once and it regenerates (or 90%ish). 3500 FU megasessions! 1 a year for 5 years! One can dream.

[Follicle Death Row]

I'm going to send them an email asking about the average number of FU available and if they only transplant 1s and 2s since they're partially extracting follicles. I'll post up the response if they get back to me.

[RichardDawkins]

3500 every year this would be abso****inglutely insane but funny because i really wanna see the faces of some NW7 guys friends, when this guy come clubbing with them with elvis hairdo and they ask him "hoo its a wig" and then they see nope its not a wig"

If i had to guess, i would say that you can harvest one follicle around 4 to 5 times but i am not sure about that.

But one thing is for sure, every NW7 can be totally fixed in around 5 to 6 years or so, sorry i menat sessions (given they are 3000 or so)

[Dutch_Dude]

5 years seems like a really long time. If you see some transplant results for NW 6's then it would really take a lot less than 5 years. And if they can multiply hairs, they can take a few hairs, multiply them and then put them all back into oyur head in one or two treatments.

[Follicle Death Row]

Imagine if they moved 9,000 over a number of days. That would be something.

[NeedHairASAP]

5 years seems like a really long time. If you see some transplant results for NW 6's then it would really take a lot less than 5 years. And if they can multiply hairs, they can take a few hairs, multiply them and then put them all back into oyur head in one or two treatments.

dutch dude you have no idea what Gho is doing.. please read through the thread or his website

[greatjob!]

I emailed HASCI asking about their stem cell injection treatment. I asked if they had a time frame as to when it would be released and also any information on its efficacy and saftey and this was their reply:

At this time we do this technique only to patients with burns. We don’t know when we are apply this technique to conventional treatments.

Kind regards.
Marleen Verreussel
Team Hair Science Institute

So are they saying that they already have a product like the ones Histogen, Aderans, and Replicell are developing? This seems very strange that they would have such a treatment but not release it to the general public.

[UK_]

They're already using the injection????!!!!!

May I ask [without sounding too distasteful] why burn victims are able to have this procedure and individuals suffering from MPB aren’t?

Are we here suffering any less from losing our hair?

What would happen to HST if the injection is released? lol.

P.S. Are they actually CULTURING AND MULTIPLYING the cells?

[greatjob!]

It is puzzling if they do have an injection that works and they are using, why they are not offering it. It doesn't make much sense as they would be missing out on a lot of money. I was expecting to get a response along the lines of Histogen, and I am quite shocked that they responded saying they are already using it. Strange...

not sure what the exact method is as they didn't offer up any info

[UK_]

I doubt they are culturing and multiplying the cells - probably just a smaller needle.

[NeedHairASAP]

But one thing is for sure, every NW7 can be totally fixed in around 5 to 6 years or so, sorry i menat sessions (given they are 3000 or so)

I'm not sure this is correct because Gho is turning patients down with nw7 characteristics.. i reposted somebody from hairsite who had this issue.. its troubling




the reason for not offering the injection may be that they're still studying it slightly and burn victims are in a slightly more desperate situation than us and may make good test subjects... maybe... gho seemed to do the same thing with HST


I dont think they are culturing and multiplying cells like some of the other companies are doing... If somebody could send an email to confirm that'd be awesome....

what I think they are doing is a normal HST extraction of say 1500 follicular units...everything identical to an HST procedure at this point.... except when they would normally HST into the recipient area they instead inject with a even finer needle the stem cells.... I think they strip the 1500 folilcul ar units to fill this needle with the stem cells from each follicluar units... there is no multiplication or creation of new stem cells HOWEVER depending on how they reallocate ( or redistribute) the stem cells when injecting them back into the donor, you could end up with more hairs than the original 1500 FU that were extracted...... AGAIN this is just a guess... you may not be able to end up with more hairs than were extracted... it could just be a less invasive procedure for the recipient area than HST is...
this is how I read the information on the site.. they could be culturing and multiplying for all I know but the info given on their site doesnt seem to indicate this


if you go to their site.. go to treatments than you can see the injection tab in the navigation bar that appears

[lost.hair.lost.youth]

Can anyone get his hands on this and brief us?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305417910002524

In the abstract there is no mention about injections.

Background

Extracted partial longitudinal follicular units can be used as complete follicular units to regenerate completely differentiated hair growth. The partial follicular units that remained in the dermis in the donor area can survive and produce hairs. This technique enables us to multiply hair follicles in vivo, while preserving the donor area and therefore is suitable in persons, who have a relative small donor area compared to the recipient area, as in scalp burns.

Results

After evaluation of the donor area, sometimes a few little white spots were visible, but almost all hair follicles in the donor site re-produce hairs after 2 years. All treated patients had satisfactory or very satisfactory cosmetic results in the treated area.
Conclusions

Longitudinal partial follicular unit transplantation (LP-FUT) may represent the first reliable patient-friendly method to generate two hair follicles from one hair follicle with consistent results and preservation of the donor area. Therefore, this method is very suitable for people with facial and/or scalp burns.

This is a journal published by Elsevier, so it's credible stuff.