Footballer Wesley Sneijder had hair multiplication with Dr. Gho

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  • RichardDawkins
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    • Jan 2011
    • 895

    #46
    So he does every sunday? Interesting because Iron.Man always said that Gho is not one of those commercial Whores. Interesting

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    • Dutch_Dude
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 238

      #47
      Originally posted by RichardDawkins
      So he does every sunday? Interesting because Iron.Man always said that Gho is not one of those commercial Whores. Interesting
      it's very commercial. at least, i think so. on sundays we have this program on beauty (you can check the exact name of it on the rtl.nl website...) and all the hair transplants that occur on that program are done by Gho or by TransHair...but 80% by Gho. a few famous dutch people had it done by him: snijder, frans bauer, gerard joling (who does look good but he had another transplant a few years ago by a regular surgeon, and a lot of people suspect he also wears extensions...)

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      • Follicle Death Row
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1058

        #48
        Gho is well dodgey but I must say Wesley Sneijder's hair is looking damn good at the moment. What gives? Did he actually undergo regular FUE I wonder?

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        • RichardDawkins
          Inactive
          • Jan 2011
          • 895

          #49
          Thanks for this infos , i just wanted to know this. And i think i just found out the big Gho problem here.

          Gho is to stupid and i mean it that way, to use the expanded/infinite donor for a good coverage becuse he simply lacks the know how for a good transplant

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          • Dutch_Dude
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 238

            #50
            one of the problems is that he almost never does it himself. he has some "doctors" he "educates" who do it for him. one of them being some kristel van herwijnen. so basically, it's done by nurses a lot of the time and he's not even present. also, a scientist is not automatically a good hair surgeon. that's why this patent thing, especially in the medicine world, sucks. if feriduni, hasson & wong or cole would try this out, they could probably achieve much better results.

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            • RichardDawkins
              Inactive
              • Jan 2011
              • 895

              #51
              I said at hair site, that the problem is "If a bad hair transplant surgeon "teches" something to others, those people also become worse transplant guys"

              This technique in better hands like the guys you mentioned here would be DA SHIT i can tell you. Because they can create a perfect density coverage with the option of doing whatever you like with your hair

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1408

                #52
                Originally posted by Gubter_87
                If I understand the technique correctly it seems to be essentially hair plucking. He plucks a hair and then takes the stem cells surrounding and implants into the thinning area.

                However he claims to have a patent on this technique, so in some way it must differ from the technique that Dr. Cooley and other doctors have started experimenting with?
                it is very much like plucking... both plucking and HST work off the same scientific concepts.... plucking is less invasive than HST (which is really a less invasive FUE that allows for donor regrowth). However HST is available now and currently on average has a better regrowth rate than plucking, an unavailable procedure, has.



                In either procedure the idea is to leave enough stem cells behind (via plucking or via extracting half of a normal FUE graft) while still extracting enough stem cells to allow for growth in the recipient area..


                both procedures are not scams in the sense that the science is proven

                the real questions are.. how much does this increase the available donor? and which has better regrowth rates in both recipient and donor areas?


                people seem to think that gho can do what he says.. but that he isn't very good at it... however between WS and joling's results I can't say im not impressed... this procedure is perfect for me as somebody who wants a shaved head but with enough hair there to SOMEWHAT frame my face





                HST started in 07 or 08.. and was only really put into a public market in the last 6-8 months tops...... and for those 6-8 months you could get no more than 1600-1900 grafts for some time.... i think its been upped to 2300...and you can only have one procedure every 12 months (recently this was changed to 9 months) thusly we will not see the full restorations that people are asking for until AT LEAST another year or so.... and thats if were lucky and early adopters went for full restorations as fast as they could... and also want to take the time out of their day to come on here and post.... did you frequent these forums when baldness was not an issue for you? as you can see it may take some time before we see a miraculous nw7 to nw1 result.... although if you have a great donor area and that area reacts well to rengeration than its very very possible


                again, this science is proven... its more a question of consistency at this point

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                • Follicle Death Row
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 1058

                  #53
                  Well said. If this is indeed working (I think it must be if they're still offering it) then Dr. Gho has gone some way to making up for the shortcomings in the past. Sounds like the ideal procedure for the risk adverse who may need plentiful donor in the future and want to limit scarring. I should imagine a 0.6mm extraction tool leaves no marks to the noticeable marks to the naked eye.

                  I'm beginning to come around on Dr. Gho and the Hair Science Institute.

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                  • NeedHairASAP
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1408

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                    I should imagine a 0.6mm extraction tool leaves no marks to the noticeable marks to the naked eye.

                    its actually a .05mm needle I believe

                    here are the latest pictures of WS


                    多元化的自媒体社区,海外中文网络第一站



                    WS wears his hair MUCH shorter than the MAJORITY of FUE or strip patients





                    other interesting pages...













                    Joling after his 2nd HST



                    DAMN THATS CUT SHORT!

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                    • NeedHairASAP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1408

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                      Well said. If this is indeed working (I think it must be if they're still offering it) then Dr. Gho has gone some way to making up for the shortcomings in the past. Sounds like the ideal procedure for the risk adverse who may need plentiful donor in the future and want to limit scarring. I should imagine a 0.6mm extraction tool leaves no marks to the noticeable marks to the naked eye.

                      I'm beginning to come around on Dr. Gho and the Hair Science Institute.
                      I think if you research his shortcomings and the evolution of his work that HST isn't a scam but the organic conclusion of his research

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                      • Follicle Death Row
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 1058

                        #56
                        Yeah, that sounds fair.

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                        • Follicle Death Row
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 1058

                          #57
                          I'm convinced. I've never seen anyone with a transplant cut their hair that short. Looks like he's had 3500 (maybe he has). Might be the best HT I've seen. The procedure ticks all the boxes, vastly increased donor, minimally invasive, scar free to the naked eye, short down time.

                          If you have the financial resources it really seems that you can sweep against the tide. Tackle the hairloss as it progresses and restore your hair every 2 or 3 years. HST will surely allow the hairline you want and density over multiple procedures rather than an unsatisfactory compromise. I had said I'd never undergo HT but this procedure seems so much better. Something I might consider in the future for sure.

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                          • NeedHairASAP
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1408

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                            I'm convinced. I've never seen anyone with a transplant cut their hair that short. Looks like he's had 3500 (maybe he has). Might be the best HT I've seen. The procedure ticks all the boxes, vastly increased donor, minimally invasive, scar free to the naked eye, short down time.

                            If you have the financial resources it really seems that you can sweep against the tide. Tackle the hairloss as it progresses and restore your hair every 2 or 3 years. HST will surely allow the hairline you want and density over multiple procedures rather than an unsatisfactory compromise. I had said I'd never undergo HT but this procedure seems so much better. Something I might consider in the future for sure.
                            EXACTLY! I had never seen anyone cut their hair that short after any procedure





                            I too was a HT hater. I started losing my hair and began hitting forums and doing research on HT. This was about two years ago. At that point Strip procedures were still big (i guess they still are lol) and FUE was also big...

                            I put a lot of faith in histogen and aderans and really hated all HT surgeons and vowed I'd never look into them again.. just wait for histogen baisically


                            i thought all HT docs were crooks


                            then came a post on wesley schnieder..... I became interested and looked further... I was convinced HST was legit... then I started to notice MASSIVE amounts of negative comments on Gho.. here is the top three I heard...


                            1. Gho has been offering the same thing for a decade

                            2. Where are the full restorations if its true

                            3. Gho is just doing FUE


                            I mean there is a lot of Gho hate that permeates forums in the above forms... I lost faith in it and I started to think this guy "ironman" on hairsite was just a nutball... which he is but he's a nutball who knows how to gather information to back his claims.... so I started to follow Gho posts and really get into the science of it and the more I look the more i KNOW that gho can regenerate hair, the question is can he make it consistent enough to give a nw7 a nw1 or 2 hairstyle? if he can I'd rather have HST than plop nitrogen goo or cancer growth hormones into my head to grow mutant hair....



                            my final conclusion...


                            gho's science is backed by several sources... some sources which have conflicting interest with Gho yet their findings still back Gho...

                            -italian researchers findings back gho

                            -rassman admitted that all hair transplants revolve around the stem cells at the base of follicles

                            - a wife/husband research team in england took cells from the guys hair and implanted them in the wifes fore arm and hair grew.... aka its the cells that grow hair and a massive 1.0mm FUE graft is not neccessary

                            - cole's plucking... cole's plucking works off the same exact science as Gho

                            - Gho's research he did himself

                            - I saw a written and signed apology from a european doctor who was publicly saying Gho was just doing FUE and not multiplication of hairs... apparently he was taken to court and reprimanded... the apology basically said after further inspection that Gho was indeed doing what he claimed.




                            thats just some of the evidence FOR Gho.... and there is very little if any evidence against him



                            at this point it really is just a question of


                            1. consistency, how often can he get that 80-100% regrowth mark, and can he hit it in subsequent procedures using the same grafted follice

                            2. can he give a result that is as cosmetically pleasing as say, Dr. Fuller

                            3. How many times can the same graft be harvested? or, exactly how many grafts are possibly harvested from the donor? i think the average is 5,000-6,000 with normal procedures so is gho talking 9,000? 10,000? 15,000?

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                            • Follicle Death Row
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1058

                              #59
                              Those are my exact thoughts too. I came across the Gho haters too and was skeptical myself but I have come around on this. There is quite a bit of evidence in support of it and absolutely nothing against it. The big thing is Dr. Gho has patented the procedure. If he didn't he'd have to contend with other clinics offering the procedure and given the flak he tends to receive you'd imagine potential clients would be going to the H&W, Feller, Shapiros etc.

                              The best thing for all of us would be if Dr. Gho decided to go into partnership and open a US Hair Science Institute with one of the top docs. I would be very surprised if Dr. Cole, Dr. Feller and others aren't looking into it the technique at least.

                              Looking at Sneijder's hair alone is enough to realise we're dealing with a game changer here.

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                              • NeedHairASAP
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1408

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                                W, Feller, Shapiros etc.

                                The best thing for all of us would be if Dr. Gho decided to go into partnership and open a US Hair Science Institute with one of the top docs. I would be very surprised if Dr. Cole, Dr. Feller and others aren't looking into it the technique at least.

                                .

                                I believe gho is teaching and/or franchising his technique or the HST name or something like that for $50k. I think that Gho mentions this in his interview with spencer kobren but I'll try and find another source

                                I've read so much about gho I have trouble remembering what claims I read were cited or not cited, from gho or not from gho but I believe I heard/read somebody say Gho is looking to have other people/clinics practicing this in the next 12-16 months

                                again I'm going to try and gather the sources for my claims above... i'll post them here

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