Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • CVAZBAR
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 443

    Originally posted by UK_
    This is why im so excited about HSC - nothing has ever, proven to produce so much hair in such a small area, just imagine if this compound is applied to say a larger sq area of the scalp.
    Hitzig with Acell and Ziering with Histogen are supposed to report news on results soon and I cant wait.

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2691

      Originally posted by CVAZBAR
      Hitzig with Acell and Ziering with Histogen are supposed to report news on results soon and I cant wait.
      Same here, haven't been this excited to see the onset of spring in years lol.

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      • HairTalk
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 252

        Does anyone know when results are expected to be posted?

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        • Gubter_87
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 102

          I believe Dr. Ziering said he would be posting some kind of initial results from an exploratory study in about three weeks.
          But what results are Dr. Hitzig planning on sharing with us in the near future?

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          • CVAZBAR
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 443

            Originally posted by Gubter_87
            I believe Dr. Ziering said he would be posting some kind of initial results from an exploratory study in about three weeks.
            But what results are Dr. Hitzig planning on sharing with us in the near future?
            Dr. Hitzing recently replied on another thread stating that he has some new exciting news. Not sure what it is but he said he would hope to BLOW OUR MINDS haha. That shit better be good haha.

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            • UK_
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2691

              Originally posted by CVAZBAR
              Dr. Hitzing recently replied on another thread stating that he has some new exciting news. Not sure what it is but he said he would hope to BLOW OUR MINDS haha. That shit better be good haha.
              thanks CVA ...you got a link to the thread by any chance?

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              • gmonasco
                Inactive
                • Apr 2010
                • 865

                Originally posted by UK_
                you got a link to the thread by any chance?
                Here's the post:

                I’m issuing this response because I am beginning to get phone calls requesting treatment with plucked hairs that are tainted with ACell based on presentations by Dr. Jerry Cooley and Dr. Gary Hitzig along with irrational exuberance on the part of some physicians who incorrectly feel these presentations represent a


                I don't think his statement that "Sorry you haven't been blown away by the results, but the results are the results to date. Hope to blow you away in time." indicates that he has something amazing to announce in the near future. He's just expressing his hopes that things will pan out someday.

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  Originally posted by gmonasco
                  Here's the post:

                  I’m issuing this response because I am beginning to get phone calls requesting treatment with plucked hairs that are tainted with ACell based on presentations by Dr. Jerry Cooley and Dr. Gary Hitzig along with irrational exuberance on the part of some physicians who incorrectly feel these presentations represent a


                  I don't think his statement that "Sorry you haven't been blown away by the results, but the results are the results to date. Hope to blow you away in time." indicates that he has something amazing to announce in the near future. He's just expressing his hopes that things will pan out someday.
                  Yeah... he hopes to blow us away - lol.

                  Honestly, when he talks about 'saving hair' I just feel annoyed for the damn options you have for doing so... PROPECIA lol - I wouldn't touch the stuff - for one... as soon as you come off whatever you retained/regrew you lose within 3 months, couldn't imagine taking an anti-androgen for the next decade or two.

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                  • CVAZBAR
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 443

                    Well before that he, wrote this - "Sorry not to have posted in a bit but I have been quite busy with my paper and with some exciting new stuff.
                    Best to all of you

                    That was before the "Blow your mind" ha.

                    Im not sure what the first post means. Can we get the translator again?

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      Originally posted by CVAZBAR
                      Well before that he, wrote this - "Sorry not to have posted in a bit but I have been quite busy with my paper and with some exciting new stuff.
                      Best to all of you

                      That was before the "Blow your mind" ha.

                      Im not sure what the first post means. Can we get the translator again?
                      Think I might shave my head and sandpaper my scalp... DIY HSC procedure lol.

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                      • HairTalk
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 252

                        Will you be conducting trials on persons who have had hair-transplants, perhaps including to see whether H.S.C. will stimulate growth in scar-tissue?

                        Thanks.

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                        • gmonasco
                          Inactive
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 865

                          Originally posted by UK_
                          I remember when Intercytex came out claiming their DP cells induced "significant hair growth" in 4 out of 5 patients, but they totally fell on their Phase II trials.
                          Therein lies the rub. "Statistically significant" hair growth nay be a useful data point for medical trials, but only cosmetically significant hair growth means a d*mn thing to any of us.

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2691

                            Originally posted by gmonasco
                            Therein lies the rub. "Statistically significant" hair growth nay be a useful data point for medical trials, but only cosmetically significant hair growth means a d*mn thing to any of us.
                            Thats right, and Intercytex grew a few dozen fine hairs hardly visible to the naked eye from injecting DP cells, they totally fell, I dont blame the recession, because if any company can come up with the results, survival is not often an issue.

                            Only time will tell, what is promising is the research conducted by Follica, we still have those stem cells, we dont need to worry about creating/injecting new ones, we just need to identify the specific pathway to promote hair growth again, even if it requires repeat treatments it beats the age-old rubbish we have as options at the moment. I have not met many people who have lasted longer than a few years on propecia, those that come off lose everything they keep - often worse.

                            Dr Ziering is right, we are all in this together, we all want results, and in all honesty if someone can produce 57 hairs per sq cm and maintain those results for a period greater than two years... then we will reach the finish line, we will reach it.

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                            • fontanajul
                              Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 30

                              I'm wondering what would be the after effect of going through Histogen injections and then discontinuing use of finasteride. I don't want to be on a pill forever... =/

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                The body has the ability to regenerate, cut off parts of the liver and it often grows back, you know about cutting off the tip of a child’s finger etc, we even see such regeneration on a bizarre scale in nature, we just need to find out how to minic these phenomena and reproduce them safely in humans, not hardly an easy task however!

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