Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[UK_]

We should also add the following to the list of upcoming treatments:

http://www.skincareblog.net/2011/03/25/dermal-stem-cells/

So what's that now?... 7 in total?... what did we have throughout the 80's...90's?... **** all thats what.

Be grateful.

[UK_]

Does anybody on here feel after reading the above link they could set up their own lab and start regenerating hair follicles?

OH THATS RIGHT - We need professionals... sorry Iron_Man, I did try.

God knows why there's no research coming out of the UK - too busy spending millions developing STD apps for Iphones to support our burgeoning prostitution industry.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Wow, I never heard of Mibelle Biochemistry before; that's really cool. I like Histogen's chances, as well as Replicel. I'm not too confident in Aderans, and plus now that they're run by Bosley, that's a negative. Bosley is about one of the least ethical companies around. You listed 7 companies that developing new treatments for hair loss. I know about Histogen, now Mibelle, Replicel, Follica, Aderans. What are the other 2?

[DepressedByHairLoss]

And BTW, of course some one like Rassman is gonna downplay these new techniques. While he's still offering archaic hair transplants and head tattooing, these other doctors are going to be offering WAY more effective techniques that don't leave scars all over your head. I mean, how many people even want some scarring hair transplant or worse yet head tattooing in the first place?

[UK_]

@DepressedBHL - Well we have the following (if I have missed any please inform me):

1) Aderans

2) Histogen

3) Follica

4) Replicel

5) Berlin Tech University

6) MiBelle Biochem labs

7) China Medical University (Nitric Oxide solution)

8) Acell/Plucking + Gho's HST (entire surgical paradigm, which offers probably the best chances of all)

9) St Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne and Melbourne University (Rod Sinclair)

10) Professor Mayumi Ito and his team developing wnt signalling for BOTH hair loss and grey hair

Note, all of the above are professionals, professionals we could all do without (according to Iron_Man).

The thing is with Rassman, he himself has not OUTRIGHT said Gho is wrong - he [like all of us] wants to see the results - I think deep down he knows Gho has created that new era in transplant techniques that is SO OVERDUE right now!

And is it just me? Because I dont ever recall such a number of companies working on treatments during the 80's and 90's! Back then all I remember were horrible plug transplants and minoxidil, people were still waiting for FDA clearance for propecia - now we're waiting for FDA clearance for gene therapy!

I know hair loss has turned us all into a bunch of downers but we have to be positive!

[Kiwi]

I'm with you UK_ !!

[RichardDawkins]

UK is right unfortunately. In the 90s there was ....... NOTHING not even one thing. I am not confident with all of the named ones but its good to have em.

Regarding Gho, the more and more i study his stuff i think he is right but overcautios when setting densities etc.

Because lets be honest here for one minute.
"Who would be so insane to advertise hair multiplication, treating celebrities etc and publish papers only to lie"

And the other question is a really really simple one

"Why are those clinics or docs who say ITS IMPOSSIBLE not sueing Gho and his clinic? I mean if they are so confident why not sue him"

I think that 2011 is the turning point where everyone has to settle the record for himself straight.

1) the forums have to look into if its good to downtalk Gho only for advertising reasons

2) we have to finally think about hair loss and our solutions in a mature way beyond illusions and propecia

3) clinics have to choose which way they wanna go


Also i have the strange feeling, that only a handful of docs know that HST is working and thats why they went to experiment with Acell etc, because if you understand that hair follicles regenerate themselves when damaged, then you have one essential part of the puzzle figured out

[Mojo Risin]

UK you forgot about Astressin-B : http://www.hairloss-research.com/human-trials/

They're going to go forward with human trials ..

[mlao]

If all this is true and I really want it to be so. Dr. Gho needs to present his findings in a peer reviewed forum that is judged objectively by other doctors.
I am sure any of the well respected doctors;
(Hasson & wong, Drs. Ron and Paul Shapiro, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Bernstein)
would be unbiased in there judgement. All you have to do is research them and you realize they are always looking for ways to improve their results. If Dr. Ghos technique is superior it needs to be put in the hands of doctors who can use it on a daily basis and refine it. lets face it the Shapiro's and Hasson and Wong did not invent FUT but they refined it!

[UK_]

UK you forgot about Astressin-B : http://www.hairloss-research.com/human-trials/

They're going to go forward with human trials ..

So thats 11... and lets not forget Latisse they're in phase 1 for MPB - who knows what a stronger solution may bring?

Btw Mojo - that's a great website.

Looks like they'll be posting their project schedule today! So we can atleast view a viable timeline.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

I totally hear you, UK. We do have to be positive. That's really what's keeping me going right now: that companies like Histogen and Mibelle are developing non-invasive and non-surgical solutions to hair loss. I wasn't aware of some of those companies so thanks for filling me in. I just get so frustrated when all we have out there for 'solutions' are such garbage like minoxidil, finasteride, and hair transplants. If something better was offered, then I believe that SOOOOO many people (including myself) would literally jump at the chance to regrow their hair. I want to grow my hair back in the worst way but the last thing that I want is permanent head scarring. But it's good news that all of these companies are working to develop much more effective solutions for hair loss. And it's great that many of these companies are not based in the U.S., so they don't need to jump through all of the b.s. FDA hurdles. After all, I think most people would literally jump at the chance for a non-invasive hair regrowth procedure; I mean, no one wants scars on their head for the rest of their life. BTW, when I mention the FDA, I believe that they are nothing more than a puppet of the pharmaceutical industry. Unfortunately, they're not out for the public's best interest, they're only out for their personal gain.

[CVAZBAR]

With all the positive talk, I'm going to sleep good tonight ha. imagine all these treatments fail? Jk, **** that! It better not happen.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Latisse is in phase 2.

[Cory]

I've read before that you will need Histogen injections every 3-6 months, but I think that will be just first year, I think it all depends what norwood are you, I guess they can't give all shots at once.

What is Mibelle actually doing, how far are they?

[stillinHS1994]

If all these treatments fail then I will officially give up hope on humanity and go live in a cave somewhere....

[RichardDawkins]

its unlikely that all will fail because every one of them targets another thing. And we all know hair regeneration can happen. So lets see who will win this race