Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • DepressedByHairLoss
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 876

    I am very glad that Histogen plans to release HSC outside of the U.S. first. **** the FDA, they truly are in bed with a lot of the big pharmaceutical companies and care about making money first and foremost. The FDA currently nitpicks on every little experimental drug coming out on the market, yet they have done absoutely nothing to police the hair transplant business. I have seen plenty of people on here and other places who have disfigured heads because of the permanent scars yet the FDA does nothing to investigate this. So anyway, I am very glad that Histogen plans to release HSC outside of the U.S. first. This is not an issue for me. I would gladly travel to the moon and back to regain the hair I lost, and I will be on the first plane to Asia once HSC is offered over there.

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    • Flowers
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 254

      Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
      I am very glad that Histogen plans to release HSC outside of the U.S. first. **** the FDA, they truly are in bed with a lot of the big pharmaceutical companies and care about making money first and foremost. The FDA currently nitpicks on every little experimental drug coming out on the market, yet they have done absoutely nothing to police the hair transplant business. I have seen plenty of people on here and other places who have disfigured heads because of the permanent scars yet the FDA does nothing to investigate this. So anyway, I am very glad that Histogen plans to release HSC outside of the U.S. first. This is not an issue for me. I would gladly travel to the moon and back to regain the hair I lost, and I will be on the first plane to Asia once HSC is offered over there.
      Well I don't think hair transplants involve food or drugs. But anyway yeah releasing it overseas is probably the best way to go. This is all hypothetical of course as idk why but I don't see histogen coming out very soon. And maybe this has been answered but is anyone concerned with what side effects may be of getting this stuff injected into you?

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      • CAlex
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 113

        Flowers I would inject this stuff in my head tomorrow if I could. 57 hairs /cm2 is no joke. There were no side effects or even inflammation in the preclinical trials.

        Phase1/2 that should be getting underway soon will answer much more of these questions for us. Im hopeful that they can get a treatment available somewhere[asia etc] by the end of 2014 basically 3 and a 1/2 years from today. AS long as they don't run into anymore legal issues or have any major trial setbacks I feel that is a doable timeline.

        I am not one of those people who think they will have hsc available in 2 years. just unrealistic imo.

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        • BoSox
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 708

          Forgive me if I sound like a broken record, but when will the data that proves HSC is capable of giving a full head of hair, or has previous data already proven this is capable?

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          • debris
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 30

            Originally posted by BoSox
            Forgive me if I sound like a broken record, but when will the data that proves HSC is capable of giving a full head of hair, or has previous data already proven this is capable?
            I think ull need to wait at least for the current phase to end.

            in the first trial there was 30% terminal hair increase in average (if i read the graphs correctly)

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            • DepressedByHairLoss
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 876

              Wow, I wish they could see if that ReCell stuff could be applied to hair loss. If it could perform the same miracle that it did for this young child, then I'd be on the first plane to anywhere (Singapore, China, Malaysia, I don't care) just to get it done. And the best part is that it's non-surgical.

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              • UK_
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2744

                Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                Wow, I wish they could see if that ReCell stuff could be applied to hair loss. If it could perform the same miracle that it did for this young child, then I'd be on the first plane to anywhere (Singapore, China, Malaysia, I don't care) just to get it done. And the best part is that it's non-surgical.
                It's a great website!

                They take your own cells, culture them and spray them on your skin to promote rapid healing....

                ...sounds a lot like something we know about eh guys? lol.

                The biotech revolution wasnt mere psuedo-science - it's happening.

                Have any of you heard of "Alloderm"? A friend of mine who works@ the Oxford Nanotech labs told me about it, they can use it to grow new skin, and remember, human skin is an organ.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 876

                  I contacted the people at ReCell and they predictably said that they did not have a similar procedure that could regrow hair like the way they have regrown skin. Yet I really think that if people really experimented with a Recell-like solution for hair loss, that we'd really be on to something.

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                  • debris
                    Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 30

                    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                    I contacted the people at ReCell and they predictably said that they did not have a similar procedure that could regrow hair like the way they have regrown skin. Yet I really think that if people really experimented with a Recell-like solution for hair loss, that we'd really be on to something.
                    i saw a picture of burn of a baby's scalp. it didnt grow hair there.

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                    • Cory
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 32

                      Someone posted on hair loss talk that Histogen is starting phase 3 in march 2012 and single injection will cost about 1000$ and it will be available by 2014 according to Gail.

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                      • debris
                        Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 30

                        Originally posted by Cory
                        Someone posted on hair loss talk that Histogen is starting phase 3 in march 2012 and single injection will cost about 1000$ and it will be available by 2014 according to Gail.
                        he surely meant single treatment and not single injection.

                        The one single injection grew 84 hair in the very best case. and much less in average. That would make it more expensive than HT as it would translate to prices from 25 to 75 usd per graft.

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                        • ALLISWELL
                          Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 52

                          Originally posted by debris
                          he surely meant single treatment and not single injection.

                          The one single injection grew 84 hair in the very best case. and much less in average. That would make it more expensive than HT as it would translate to prices from 25 to 75 usd per graft.
                          Wow dude thats good news...Where did you saw this? Can you please post there the link here....

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                          • ALLISWELL
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 52

                            Originally posted by Cory
                            Someone posted on hair loss talk that Histogen is starting phase 3 in march 2012 and single injection will cost about 1000$ and it will be available by 2014 according to Gail.
                            Wow dude thats good news...Where did you saw this? Can you please post there the link here....

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                            • CAlex
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 113

                              They haven't even started phase 2 yet so this talk of phase 3 is b.s.

                              Last info I had was histogens Phase 2 was going to start sometime before the end of July and may have already started though.

                              March 2012 for starting Phase 3 sounds made up by a poster imo. That means phase 2 trials, plus data collection/analyzing, plus gathering candidates for phase 3 will all be done within the next 9 months. Good luck with that magic trick.

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                              • HairTalk
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 253

                                Originally posted by CAlex
                                They haven't even started phase 2 yet so this talk of phase 3 is b.s.

                                Last info I had was histogens Phase 2 was going to start sometime before the end of July and may have already started though.

                                March 2012 for starting Phase 3 sounds made up by a poster imo. That means phase 2 trials, plus data collection/analyzing, plus gathering candidates for phase 3 will all be done within the next 9 months. Good luck with that magic trick.
                                Does anyone have word on wheteher phase II has yet begun? I understand Histogen began recruiting subjects, last month (June, 2011), and I wonder if they've finished doing so and have started testing.

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