Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[gmonasco]

no... it's all the same dude

Uh, no, it's not. That's why the M in MPB stands for male.

[2020]

Uh, no, it's not. That's why the M in MPB stands for male.

yes because males lose hair in a different pattern than women.... MPB, FPB - all lose hair for the same reason.

The only one type of hair loss that's different from all others is ALOPECIA AREATA.

[yeahyeahyeah]

yes because males lose hair in a different pattern than women.... MPB, FPB - all lose hair for the same reason.

The only one type of hair loss that's different from all others is ALOPECIA AREATA.

And more importantly HSC WORKS on MPB

Gmonasco is extremely pessimistic.

[eqvist]

Lucky me who doesn't have bald spot YET. If it can give me 50% increase In my thinning spots I will be super happy!


I can´t stop thinking "what if Histogen didn´t hade problem with patent"

[2020]

THE ONLY problem I have with this:

why so many injections? Couldn't they just up the dose? It's great that it works but it would take 1000+ injections to boost every single spot on your head

[eqvist]

Double post

[yeahyeahyeah]

THE ONLY problem I have with this:

why so many injections? Couldn't they just up the dose? It's great that it works but it would take 1000+ injections to boost every single spot on your head

Thats the whole point of phase 2 , to test dosing etc.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Lucky me who doesn't have bald spot YET. If it can give me 50% increase In my thinning spots I will be super happy!


I can´t stop thinking "what if Histogen didn´t hade problem with patent"

You could just have a mature hairline.

Most guys I know with bald spots are noticeably thinning prior to developing one.

I would say that if you are a NW2 by your mid twenties, and are not shedding much, your hair will hold out until this comes out. Which should be 2016 MAX.

[Nilli57211]

Again, note that "increased hair growth" is not the same thing as "created new hairs." What's being referenced in the article is the stimulation of miniaturized and resting hairs, not the creation of new hair follicles. It helps hair you already have, but may not do anything to make up for lost hair.

Why are you always so negative? This is really exciting news! Their results are even better than they were in the pilot study, and I'm sure they'll probably keep on improving.

Even if all it does is stimulate resting follicles, that's freaking amazing. For people with bald scalps, it could get some of their hair back, and for people with thinning it could possibly be full recovery.

Do you not want them to succeed or something?

[gmonasco]

yes because males lose hair in a different pattern than women

And that difference is crucial. Women tend to lose hair through overall thinning; men tend to lose hair through hairline recession and crown balding. If you've got a treatment that revitalizes miniaturized hair, therefore, it's likely going to be much more effective for women, who still have hair everywhere, than for denuded areas of the male scalp.

[neversaynever]

Why are you always so negative? This is really exciting news! Their results are even better than they were in the pilot study, and I'm sure they'll probably keep on improving.

Even if all it does is stimulate resting follicles, that's freaking amazing. For people with bald scalps, it could get some of their hair back, and for people with thinning it could possibly be full recovery.

Do you not want them to succeed or something?

I dont think that is negative. Just stating a fact.

[jpm]

Fair enough, if that is the case e.g. super MINOX.

Then this product is great for lower norwoods, who can use this in conjunction with a HT to get back down to NW0.

would you want to go to a NW0, will most ethical Dr's do that?. I think you would look odd a NW0 at 50!

[yeahyeahyeah]

would you want to go to a NW0, will most ethical Dr's do that?. I think you would look odd a NW0 at 50!

Why not, if I have enough donor hair?

TBH that argument of it looking weird at 50 is silly. It's a statement made by HT doctors in order to make the patient feel better about themselves with a more recessed hairline.





All with perfect NW0 hair, and don't look weird.

[Nilli57211]

I dont think that is negative. Just stating a fact.

That post wasn't particularly negative, but there's just a trend of his posts being extremely skeptical about results that have been produced.

[yeahyeahyeah]

And that difference is crucial. Women tend to lose hair through overall thinning; men tend to lose hair through hairline recession and crown balding. If you've got a treatment that revitalizes miniaturized hair, therefore, it's likely going to be much more effective for women, who still have hair everywhere, than for denuded areas of the male scalp.

So what has that go to do with the treatment not working for men with thinning spots?