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  • ThinFast
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 152

    Originally posted by Flowers
    Oh. I thought they could basically just get a special magnifying glass or something and tell if hairs in certain areas of the head are further apart from each other than other areas.
    Most have "microscope" cameras (mine's called a Proscope) that can take pictures of different zoom levels depending on the lense you have. It's really difficult to get an idea of how dense a region of the scalp is with the amount of hair on it. That really only tells one part of the story. The main thing is individual hair thickness and also how many hairs are there coming out of each follicular unit. You can have really thick hair, but if only one strand is coming out of each follicular unit, your hair will still appear thinned out. I've seen as many as 4-5 hairs coming out of a single follicular unit on my head. In the areas I'm thinning, it's down to 1 or 2. And if there is 2, one of the strands looks healthy while the other appears thin and colorless. I use to take pictures with my proscope bi-monthly, but it just became an unhealthy obsession, especially since I could not find a way to stop or slow my loss.

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    • Flowers
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 254

      Originally posted by ThinFast
      Most have "microscope" cameras (mine's called a Proscope) that can take pictures of different zoom levels depending on the lense you have. It's really difficult to get an idea of how dense a region of the scalp is with the amount of hair on it. That really only tells one part of the story. The main thing is individual hair thickness and also how many hairs are there coming out of each follicular unit. You can have really thick hair, but if only one strand is coming out of each follicular unit, your hair will still appear thinned out. I've seen as many as 4-5 hairs coming out of a single follicular unit on my head. In the areas I'm thinning, it's down to 1 or 2. And if there is 2, one of the strands looks healthy while the other appears thin and colorless. I use to take pictures with my proscope bi-monthly, but it just became an unhealthy obsession, especially since I could not find a way to stop or slow my loss.
      True. Well yeah hopefully this helps. And I'm interested in what that capixyl stuff is. Apparently they did clinical studies and got better results than minox. Fingers crossed...

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      • AgainstThis
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 461

        A few things.

        First of all, the only way a re-order was filed through TRX2 would be if you signed up for the Hair Growth Club Membership (like I did). Shipments are made every 75 days, with a start date defined as the day the payment was set up. I actually had the same problem, because I ended up paying 10 days later than the first payment was set up, but it still counted as the program's start date.

        So I received a second shipment ahead of time but it's okay, since I'm going to be taking it anyway, you know?

        The thing I'm curious about is whether or not the fifth shipment (the free-benefit one) will count as a 0.00 value transaction. Because if they still charge you, but send you an EXTRA three bottles, they are basically telling you to give it to your friend and there's no real benefit in being in their Quarterly Convenience Program. I am keeping my eye on this.

        Also, Capixyl was presented at the Milan Cosmetics Expo and it's being marketed to various cosmetic companies -no one has officially picked it up yet- as part of a shampoo. It will NOT be a lotion/minoxidil style solution but rather, according to the hype, a super-turbo hair growing shampoo complex. Wait and see on that one.

        Also, REALLY good things on TRX2. Hair density is increasing everywhere, front of my hairline no longer shows and the temples seem to be filling in and closing to pre-loss levels. Hair feels and styles much better as well.

        Pictures coming on the 17th.

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        • CVAZBAR
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 443

          Originally posted by ThinFast
          Fixed, that sucks. I have to log into my account on there and see if I have an auto refill setup as well. I don't recall reading that anywhere when I was ordering my original 3 month supply. I'm currently at about 1.25-1.5 months of pills left from my original order and I do not have an additional shipment due in to my knowledge or doing.

          You make a very good point regarding TRX2 being product focused vs. the typical scam being customer service focused. Every other method I've heard or personally had experience with that I would consider "scam-like" has always had a very strong customer service approach to the business. The best example being the laser hair clinic I used to visit. So very friendly to talk to and accomodating to my schedule, but never saw any sign of results.

          Hope things get straightened out for you.
          Thinfast, I'm glad to hear you are getting some positives out of trx2 and I might consider trying it also. I know you tried it all, so I wanted to ask if you ever thought of trying this new prp/ECM/acell injections? I know you tried prp but there has been much talk about acel with prp. I know this is off the subject but just thought I take advantage since your are active on this thread.

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          • AgainstThis
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 461

            Of the treatments you mentioned, only PRP is commercially available by very few practicioners at an extremely high cost.

            ACell is experimental, volunteer only and again, costs money.

            It's highly unlikely he's tried those.

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            • ThinFast
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 152

              Originally posted by CVAZBAR
              Thinfast, I'm glad to hear you are getting some positives out of trx2 and I might consider trying it also. I know you tried it all, so I wanted to ask if you ever thought of trying this new prp/ECM/acell injections? I know you tried prp but there has been much talk about acel with prp. I know this is off the subject but just thought I take advantage since your are active on this thread.

              Originally posted by AgainstThis
              Of the treatments you mentioned, only PRP is commercially available by very few practicioners at an extremely high cost.

              ACell is experimental, volunteer only and again, costs money.

              It's highly unlikely he's tried those.
              I have not tried the prp/ECM/acell combination, but given some proven results and depending on the procedure, I would definitely be up for giving it a go. In regards to cost, it is really all relative. The PRP+protein matrix treatment I received at Greco's was $1,000 USD. While I'm hardly a well off individual, I do value my confidence and stress levels at a high monetary figure.

              AgainstThis, do you know for certain that the experimental techniques being done with Acell are requiring an investment by the experimentee? That's highly unusual in a clinical trial setting (I know you did not use 'clinical trials' per se, but 'experimental' and 'volunteer' seem to indicate this).

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                Originally posted by Fixed by 35
                Bastards. They're done a re-order (I still have nearly two months of the stuff left) without my consent and sent it to my old address, which quite literally couldn't be further away from where I live now, given that I now live on the other side of the world in the other hemisphere.

                Presumably they'll give me my money back, but I think this is the problem with TRX2. The stuff works but their company's infrastructure is rubbish. Whitfield likes to think of himself as an entrepreneur but really he's an academic and should leave the running of the business to someone competent in that field. Instead, I can't help thinking it's being run by some mate or other from university!

                Actually, this is another reason that I don't think it's a scam. It's too product focused; scams are normally very business focused (when you order a product that has a name like Thymucrap, Revivosodall or Procer-not it normally arrives quickly and customer service is excellent, but the product is crap; this seems to be the other way around).
                Thats a pile of shit - i had my doubt's about the order re-newal set up way back in the thread. This confirm's them.

                If they take cash from my account half way through my plan i'll be ****ed off.

                Simply because i'd naturally be expecting them to take funds around one week or so prior to the end of my original three month order, so i can budget for it.

                And to not even ask you before hand, if it's ok, or if the address remains the same - is fkn rubbish. If they screw up my re-newal then sod the 'hair club' i'm gonna re-order as and when i see fit.

                Never did like the sound of this auto-renwal malarky.

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                • AgainstThis
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 461

                  Ah see, there's always a catch.

                  If it was something unheard of, admittance would be free, provided you get an in with a participating clinic. With ACell which is practically proven to be efficient -sometimes in small, sometimes to a great measure- you do pay, check for example NHI's ACell program.

                  Hollywood people have probably been paying for it for a long time now, but Average Joe costs have yet to be calculated.

                  Furthermore, they say that they renew every 75 days. Still, the best way is to use a prepaid card and only charge it with the amount of money you want taken out of it at any given time. No one can charge you ahead of time this way. Plus, their payment scheme is set up in such a way as to allow you a 15 day period of "grace", effectively charging once every 90 days really.

                  Plus, since we'll be taking it for a year -or at least 6 months- I don't see any harm in this.

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                  • Sean Behnam, MD
                    IAHRS Recommended Hair Transplant Surgeon
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 121

                    AgainstThis, do you know for certain that the experimental techniques being done with Acell are requiring an investment by the experimentee? That's highly unusual in a clinical trial setting (I know you did not use 'clinical trials' per se, but 'experimental' and 'volunteer' seem to indicate this).[/QUOTE]
                    Sean Behnam, MD
                    Member, International Alliance of Hair Restoration Surgeons
                    View my IAHRS Profile

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                    • Sean Behnam, MD
                      IAHRS Recommended Hair Transplant Surgeon
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 121

                      Originally posted by ThinFast
                      I have not tried the prp/ECM/acell combination, but given some proven results and depending on the procedure, I would definitely be up for giving it a go. In regards to cost, it is really all relative. The PRP+protein matrix treatment I received at Greco's was $1,000 USD. While I'm hardly a well off individual, I do value my confidence and stress levels at a high monetary figure.

                      AgainstThis, do you know for certain that the experimental techniques being done with Acell are requiring an investment by the experimentee? That's highly unusual in a clinical trial setting (I know you did not use 'clinical trials' per se, but 'experimental' and 'volunteer' seem to indicate this).
                      Dear thinfast. I started doing case studies on Acell about 3 weeks ago. The company does'nt sponsor it, so we end up sponsoring it ourselves. I have already used Acell in combination with 2,000 graft hair transplant, 1,100 FUE, cases of "thinning hair without hair transplant" and in few patients 1 weeks after the procedure.

                      There is no set protocol on how to use the Acell. This is something that about a dozen of us doctors are trying to figure out. I will have my before and after pictures on my website. I believe by the next ISHRS meeting, we will have a better idea of how to use this product with hair transplantation.

                      Dr Sean Behnam
                      Sean Behnam, MD
                      Member, International Alliance of Hair Restoration Surgeons
                      View my IAHRS Profile

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                      • gutted
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1397

                        just a quick update.

                        will have been on trx2 for 3 months on the 12 of this month.

                        so far-
                        shedding is still reduced.
                        crown/mid section (not temples) is much much more thicker and fuller, no doubt about it.
                        not much improvement in the temple areas as of yet.

                        im hoping in the next 3 months, improvments in the temple areas will be noticeable.

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                        • Flowers
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 254

                          Originally posted by gutted
                          just a quick update.

                          will have been on trx2 for 3 months on the 12 of this month.

                          so far-
                          shedding is still reduced.
                          crown/mid section (not temples) is much much more thicker and fuller, no doubt about it.
                          not much improvement in the temple areas as of yet.

                          im hoping in the next 3 months, improvments in the temple areas will be noticeable.
                          Dude thats ****ing awesome

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                          • johnnyboots
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 143

                            Originally posted by gutted
                            just a quick update.

                            will have been on trx2 for 3 months on the 12 of this month.

                            so far-
                            shedding is still reduced.
                            crown/mid section (not temples) is much much more thicker and fuller, no doubt about it.
                            not much improvement in the temple areas as of yet.

                            im hoping in the next 3 months, improvments in the temple areas will be noticeable.
                            how bad is your hairloss?what are you on the norwood scale?

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                            • Jcm800
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2614

                              Originally posted by gutted
                              just a quick update.

                              will have been on trx2 for 3 months on the 12 of this month.

                              so far-
                              shedding is still reduced.
                              crown/mid section (not temples) is much much more thicker and fuller, no doubt about it.
                              not much improvement in the temple areas as of yet.

                              im hoping in the next 3 months, improvments in the temple areas will be noticeable.
                              Sounds promising, but correct me if i'm wrong - are you taking individual supplement's along with TRX2 as well?

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                              • gutted
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1397

                                Originally posted by Jcm800
                                Sounds promising, but correct me if i'm wrong - are you taking individual supplement's along with TRX2 as well?
                                both trx2 and individual supplements.

                                im norwood 1.

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