Dr. Wesley has begun his 3rd 'Pilofocus' Phase Testing- I was finally involved!

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  • Artista
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2105

    I understand... Eventually photos will be shown.

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    • tedwuji
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 478

      Originally posted by Artista
      I understand... Eventually photos will be shown.
      Heard you on the most recent airing of the show, thanks for the information Artista. Let us know when you get an update.

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      • Artista
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 2105

        Hello Tedwuji ! You are welcomed and thank you too!
        I certainly will update you and everybody here.
        Cheers!!

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        • doinmyheadin
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 129

          Originally posted by tedwuji
          Heard you on the most recent airing of the show, thanks for the information Artista. Let us know when you get an update.
          Tedwuji what information would that be?

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          • tedwuji
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 478

            Originally posted by doinmyheadin
            Tedwuji what information would that be?
            lol

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            • inbrugge
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 244

              So why should we be excited for Pilofocus again? As far as I understand, it's not designed for regeneration in donor area, but only to prevent scars.

              Honestly, unless I am mistaken, I don't see how this is a significant breakthrough

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              • jamesst11
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 1110

                I think if pilofocus was fine tuned enough to be able to remove a good amount of hair with a very minimal scar, that would be huge. Not ONLY for removing from donor sites, BUT removing unwanted previous transplants from recipient sites. I wish I could get an answer on this. I would love to have a tiny scar and all these horrible transplants removed. If that were possible, I would do it tomorrow.

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                • pixels
                  Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 85

                  Originally posted by inbrugge
                  So why should we be excited for Pilofocus again? As far as I understand, it's not designed for regeneration in donor area, but only to prevent scars.

                  Honestly, unless I am mistaken, I don't see how this is a significant breakthrough
                  Honestly... Don't be dim. Engage brain.

                  This is a huge step forward in Hair Transplant tech.

                  Maybe not in regeneration tech.

                  But seriously man. Credit where credit due.
                  Go get an FUT if you disagree.

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                  • pixels
                    Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 85

                    Originally posted by jamesst11
                    I think if pilofocus was fine tuned enough to be able to remove a good amount of hair with a very minimal scar, that would be huge. Not ONLY for removing from donor sites, BUT removing unwanted previous transplants from recipient sites. I wish I could get an answer on this. I would love to have a tiny scar and all these horrible transplants removed. If that were possible, I would do it tomorrow.
                    ARISTA answer a question? Your question? As opposed to the usual copy paste answer.

                    You're expecting way too much

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                    • Haircure
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 126

                      Originally posted by pixels
                      Honestly... Don't be dim. Engage brain.

                      This is a huge step forward in Hair Transplant tech.

                      Maybe not in regeneration tech.

                      But seriously man. Credit where credit due.
                      Go get an FUT if you disagree.
                      He asked a simple question, there was no need to be condescending. It's a legitimate point, any good fue surgeon out there can give you really good results with scars that are practically unnoticeable even when shaved, and even then you have to be actually looking for them to be able to notice. There is no point in having a new technique which simply reduces already insignificant scarring and in all likelihood a lot more expensive. If there is no regeneration or greater percent yield then it is not worth the extra costs.

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                      • pixels
                        Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 85

                        Originally posted by Haircure
                        He asked a simple question, there was no need to be condescending. It's a legitimate point, any good fue surgeon out there can give you really good results with scars that are practically unnoticeable even when shaved, and even then you have to be actually looking for them to be able to notice. There is no point in having a new technique which simply reduces already insignificant scarring and in all likelihood a lot more expensive. If there is no regeneration or greater percent yield then it is not worth the extra costs.
                        And there YOU go speculating on things like price. We have no idea.

                        My comment is just. The person I replied to has done absolutely nothing to help us fix hairloss.

                        Dr Wesley and Arista have done infinately more.

                        Regardless of what you say. If Pilofocus works myself and many others will become paying customers.

                        I'm fully in the Pilofocus camp but wish Arista would be more upfront and less sensationalistic.

                        That said I prefer his hope over everybody else's complaining.

                        Meanwhile I'd encourage you to Google FUE scars. It's not all peaches and cream.

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                        • Haircure
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 126

                          Originally posted by pixels
                          And there YOU go speculating on things like price. We have no idea.

                          My comment is just. The person I replied to has done absolutely nothing to help us fix hairloss.

                          Dr Wesley and Arista have done infinately more.

                          Regardless of what you say. If Pilofocus works myself and many others will become paying customers.

                          I'm fully in the Pilofocus camp but wish Arista would be more upfront and less sensationalistic.

                          That said I prefer his hope over everybody else's complaining.

                          Meanwhile I'd encourage you to Google FUE scars. It's not all peaches and cream.
                          The price is practically a given, you have a new technique which is patented and so only offered by one or a select few clinics, it's obvious they will charge a premium over traditional methods. You don't have to look further than HASCI, they claim no scarring and look how much they charge.

                          And since when does one have to have contributed to "fixing hairloss" have anything to do with voicing their opinions? Makes entirely no sense. If someone is willing to invest their hard earned money into a product they can definitely have a say or voice their concerns/complaints, it's simple logic and business. Your logic assumes that we should openly welcome any new treatments and not criticize simply because they are "doing something" compared to the rest of us, lol so apparently we now have to also help cure hairloss before we can critique another's accomplishment? Seems fair (sarcasm).

                          As for googling fue scars, yea... That's why I said a good surgeon.

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                          • pixels
                            Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 85

                            Originally posted by Haircure
                            The price is practically a given, you have a new technique which is patented and so only offered by one or a select few clinics, it's obvious they will charge a premium over traditional methods. You don't have to look further than HASCI, they claim no scarring and look how much they charge.

                            And since when does one have to have contributed to "fixing hairloss" have anything to do with voicing their opinions? Makes entirely no sense. If someone is willing to invest their hard earned money into a product they can definitely have a say or voice their concerns/complaints, it's simple logic and business. Your logic assumes that we should openly welcome any new treatments and not criticize simply because they are "doing something" compared to the rest of us, lol so apparently we now have to also help cure hairloss before we can critique another's accomplishment? Seems fair (sarcasm).

                            As for googling fue scars, yea... That's why I said a good surgeon.
                            That's not totally accurate either. HASCI were preying on people saying that they could achieve regeneration. He was a real scum bag.

                            Wesley patenting his tool seems fair enough. He can't stop people doing the same procedure though and making their own similar device that works differently enough for it not to infringe the patent.

                            What I'm hoping is that Wesley doesn't do what the guy who invented FUE does. Woods just kept the technique to himself and charged an arm and a leg.

                            So what if we were to speculate in the other more hopeful direction. In that case Wesley manufactures the tool and sells it at a reasonable prices and runs workshops everywhere teaching Pilofocus.

                            If that happens the market will set the price. Other surgeons will upskill and eventually the price will be the same as FUE (which is still more expensive than FUT).

                            Hopefully this happens and Wesley does the opposite of Woods and HASCI and changes the playing field.

                            And yes if you're going to complain and whinge and speculate (guess the future) in the negative sense than I do think it'd be nice for readers if it was balanced with some form contribution.

                            While I'm speculating just the same amount as you are, which is to say we're both making things up, at least I'm not making people feel worse.

                            Wesley... If you're reading this...

                            Do the right thing! Share the tool! Teach all the surgeons! You'll get rich either way but you'll make a bigger difference if you share and disrupt the market well and proper

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                            • dutchguyhanging
                              Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 89

                              Originally posted by pixels
                              That's not totally accurate either. HASCI were preying on people saying that they could achieve regeneration. He was a real scum bag.

                              Wesley patenting his tool seems fair enough. He can't stop people doing the same procedure though and making their own similar device that works differently enough for it not to infringe the patent.

                              What I'm hoping is that Wesley doesn't do what the guy who invented FUE does. Woods just kept the technique to himself and charged an arm and a leg.

                              So what if we were to speculate in the other more hopeful direction. In that case Wesley manufactures the tool and sells it at a reasonable prices and runs workshops everywhere teaching Pilofocus.

                              If that happens the market will set the price. Other surgeons will upskill and eventually the price will be the same as FUE (which is still more expensive than FUT).

                              Hopefully this happens and Wesley does the opposite of Woods and HASCI and changes the playing field.

                              And yes if you're going to complain and whinge and speculate (guess the future) in the negative sense than I do think it'd be nice for readers if it was balanced with some form contribution.

                              While I'm speculating just the same amount as you are, which is to say we're both making things up, at least I'm not making people feel worse.

                              Wesley... If you're reading this...

                              Do the right thing! Share the tool! Teach all the surgeons! You'll get rich either way but you'll make a bigger difference if you share and disrupt the market well and proper
                              27K views and almost 300 replies on what? we dont even have a photo to show...
                              either I am too pessimistic or this forum started to lose its value.. look at all topics in cutting edge section... I am kindly asking everyone

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                              • Occulus
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 116

                                He better hurry up, because I've been monitoring the ARTAS system's progress, and it's very, very impressive. At this point, I don't see any advantage to a "scarless" ht technique given how precise ARTAS is and will be. Remember, the ARTAS system keeps getting better and better with each software update - it's a very powerful tool that has only just begun to show its capabilities. It's probably only a matter of time before ARTAS can both extract and implant units (it already extracts units and creates the implant incisions, so really it's not that far off), at which point hts become much less expensive. Piloscopy is impressive, but its window is probably closing.

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