Bald Wingman (Rogaine ad)

[Helix]

That's my experience, not just with one girl, but all of them. They settle for you, but they wish you had hair, you know, like every other normal guy in his 20's.

But no, it was my lack of hair. You can get a girlfriend, even a hot girlfriend, but you will always be the disadvantaged one in the relationship, as she could drop your ass for a NW1 at any time, and make no mistake, she knows it!

You can also drop her ass for a younger, thinner, better looking girl. But you obviously made a mistake for not letting her know that.

[fred970]

Double post.

[fred970]

How about being successful in life AND having hair? How about having a great body AND having hair? Are the two mutually exclusive?

No, it's just that the guys who have a NW1 don't need any of that sh*t, they can just look good with 0 effort, while you have to bust your ass in the gym 5x a week.

I'm in a happy relationship by the way... but it's after I've had a hair transplant.

So yeah, all my ex-girlfriends belittled me over the fact that I was bald, yes girlfriends, you can still get a girlfriend easily when you're bald, but they will resent you for having no hair.

That's my experience, not just with one girl, but all of them. They settle for you, but they wish you had hair, you know, like every other normal guy in his 20's.

All that mockery and resentment stopped with my last two girlfriends, after I've had my hair transplant. Is this a coincidence? Oh I'm sure you will tell me my hair transplant must have made me more positive so it's my attitude that has changed.

Because when I was bald, surely crying all day and whining in front of my girlfriends about being bald was my daily life! What do you think? Of course I will be joyful and positive in front of my friends and girlfriend. Hair or no hair. Who behaves like a little bitch all the time?

But no, it was my lack of hair. You can get a girlfriend, even a hot girlfriend, but you will always be the disadvantaged one in the relationship, as she could drop your ass for a NW1 at any time, and make no mistake, she knows it!

Don't think busting your ass in the gym, getting a tan or nice clothe will compensate for having a shinny bald head at the age of 25. How girls will see it: overcompensation.

The bottom line is this: you don't want to be the bald guy. Trust me. I've been bald, most of you here haven't. I speak from experience.

[Dimoxynil]

Been following the thread closely. ...

In truth, no-one is wrong regarding attractiveness (or lack of it) regarding baldness. All valid points on both sides. If you look at the context of the add, it's set in a nightclub. It's a meat market where people only value you on your looks and not a lot else matters. It's the height of superficial status. There are some clubs in London where they won't even let you through the doors if your not attractive enough. This includes women as well. Im not a bad looking guy (I know everyone says that ) but I don't want to be part of that shit, materialistic self righteous world. You can barely ever talk to people it's so loud.

If you take yourself out of that environment into somewhere else without that ethos everything changes for the better. Somewhere where you have a genuine common interest . Life is not played out on paper. I know it doesn't seem like it sometimes but it's true

[tipsfedora]

okay dude..... sure. Reality = things you say

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-pattern_hair_loss

Time to copy pasta ( youve got the references in there )

Men with androgenic alopecia typically have higher 5-alpha-reductase, lower total testosterone, higher unbound/free testosterone, and higher free androgens, including DHT.

More theories include that baldness signaled dominance, social status, or longevity.[87] Biologists have hypothesized the larger sunlight exposed area would allow more vitamin D to be synthesized, which might have been a "finely tuned mechanism to prevent prostate cancer", as the malignancy itself is also associated with higher levels of DHT.


It doesn't take an genius to figure out in times when male lifetime was low, proving to be older than others had advantage of proving you have good genes for survival. Even today it is encoded in females to find older males more mature and attractive.

Female attraction=/= Male attraction.



You can have all hair you want, it can make you a bit more attractive, but if you don't have social status and money you can kill yourself with or without it. At the end of the day there are way too many people to simply determine what someone wants.

Proof that even with great hair you will not get laid is Eliott Rodgers.


So yeah "dude" my words have truth in them.








Also I have been few times rejected by a female who went for a lot shorter, scrawny guy with shaved head.

I was ( and still am ) nw1 , taller than most males and got abs. I got shot down, why ? Who knows, she said to her friends I seemed more physically attractive but she liked the baldies dreamy look. The logic has failed, when baldness hit me, I hopped on fin and went on a quest of self improvement.

I learned how to program, I learned 2 languages, I got into college, I started lifting, I started running, I started reading books, daily 6 hour session of " to take or not to take finasteride " has introduced me into medicine, I was copying books of medical students to learn about everything related to it.


It started as a painful process of extreme anxiety. During my reading of history I stumbled upon a belief of ( I think Romans ) that when a male started balding, it was a sign he will go through hell to find enlightenment/spiritual awakening.


While I didn't find anything religious by it, it forced me to go into myself and work on myself. I am soon planning on doing bald head look ( even though i have 'full head of hair' ) for the sake of getting over the creeping rest of anxiety.

[Buckerine11]

Baldness sucks. Big time. But people on this forum should really focus on how to become the most successful man they can become instead of sitting around lamenting over their hair. Trust me when I say that you can overcome A LOT (not all) of the negatives of baldness with LIFE SUCCESS and a good physique. I rather be an in shape, wealthy guy with a shaved head than a skinny-fat NW0 with no financial prospects. It's actually not even close.

In fact, all the dude in the video has to do is work out, get a tan, and not dress like a ****ing 1980s high school nerd, and he'll be pulling more poon than these dipshits with hair.

[dus]

Can somebody remove this thread from Cutting Edge / Future Treatments? Kthnxby

[NeedHairASAP]

LOL, well said. I was walking downtown a couple days ago and the hottest woman I saw out (tall blonde, tight body, beautiful shape) was with a slick bald NW6/7 (white) guy; not tall, not very muscled, not famous, just a manly looking dude. I want a full head beautiful thick hair as much as anyone, but the levels of delusion, body dysmorphic disorder, and self-pity on here are off the charts. The worst part about it is that it rubs off on many impressionable guys here.

I'm not sure anybody is saying that it's UNIVERSALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

more that it's MUCH MORE IMPROBABLE.

Baldness knocks you down AT LEAST 1 point on the looks scale. and looks matter-- the scientific jury is out on that.

In most cases hair will bump you up AT LEAST 2 points.

It isn't like I'm sitting around happy to say this stuff.

[TJT]

Dude stop treating your own personal life as representative of everyone else's experiences. It's ridiculous how you people are so speculative and professional when it comes to scientific experiments but when it comes to talking about social issues and society all logic goes out the window. Some girl rejected me today. Must be because all women hate bald people. The jumps to conclusions that I've seen here are beyond absurd. Have you ever considered for a moment that maybe there's something else wrong with you. It's crazy how self absorbed some of you people are. I'm perfect in every single way and there is no other reason a girl might reject me except for my hair. Seriously grow up. And in the mean time learn about the difference between causation and correlation. I swear to god this forum is a cesspool of people with body dysmorphic disorder.

LOL, well said. I was walking downtown a couple days ago and the hottest woman I saw out (tall blonde, tight body, beautiful shape) was with a slick bald NW6/7 (white) guy; not tall, not very muscled, not famous, just a manly looking dude. I want a full head beautiful thick hair as much as anyone, but the levels of delusion, body dysmorphic disorder, and self-pity on here are off the charts. The worst part about it is that it rubs off on many impressionable guys here.

[fadingaway]

You think you wouldn't suffer from mental issues if you went bald in your teens like some people here?

Give me a break. Discrimination against bald men is harsh and is absolutely real. I've lived it.

When you're a 22 bald man at university for example, what do you think will happen? Have some common sense.

Dude stop treating your own personal life as representative of everyone else's experiences. It's ridiculous how you people are so speculative and professional when it comes to scientific experiments but when it comes to talking about social issues and society all logic goes out the window. Some girl rejected me today. Must be because all women hate bald people. The jumps to conclusions that I've seen here are beyond absurd. Have you ever considered for a moment that maybe there's something else wrong with you. It's crazy how self absorbed some of you people are. I'm perfect in every single way and there is no other reason a girl might reject me except for my hair. Seriously grow up. And in the mean time learn about the difference between causation and correlation. I swear to god this forum is a cesspool of people with body dysmorphic disorder.

[NeedHairASAP]

We also have higher levels of Free Testosterone. Baldness is also seen as sign of maturity. Sign of age , agressiveness and maturity in tribal days meant you survived for a long time= good genes.

okay dude..... sure. Reality = things you say

[tipsfedora]

We also have higher levels of Free Testosterone. Baldness is also seen as sign of maturity. Sign of age , agressiveness and maturity in tribal days meant you survived for a long time= good genes.

Also Metabolic Syndrome has started along with processed carbohydrate consumption. Not a single case of polycystic/metabolic syndrome was found on high fat Eskimo/ Native American diet.

[NeedHairASAP]

It's not a prejudice against us. We are naturally less good:

Assessment of semen quality in patients with androgenetic alopecia in an infertility clinic

Abstract
Background
Androgenetic alopecia (AGA) is a common cause of hair loss in men. It is associated with the risk of cardiovascular disease and metabolic syndrome. Additionally, it is suggested that premature AGA could be considered equivalent to that of polycystic ovary syndrome in women.

Objective
The aim of this study was to examine the relation between AGA and the quality of semen.

Methods
The semen specimens were collected from 203 young adult men included in the study. AGA was classified according to the Hamilton baldness scale, modified by Norwood. All participants were classified into two categories: normal to mild AGA (equivalent to Norwood types I–II) as Group I and moderate to severe AGA (equivalent to Norwood types III–VII) as Group II to assess the difference in the quality of sperms between the two groups.

Results
There were no statistically significant differences in the men's age and body mass index scores among the groups. For both Groups I and II, the history of smoking and varicocele was not statistically different (p = 0.62 and p = 0.11, respectively). All parameters of sperm including volume, density, motility, and morphology were significantly lower in participants with moderate to severe AGA than those with normal to mild AGA (p < 0.01, p < 0.01, p < 0.01, and p < 0.01, respectively).

Conclusion
This study showed that young adult men with moderate to severe AGA have poor quality of semen compared with those who have normal to mild AGA.
















Abstract 4603: Male pattern baldness in relation to prostate cancer-specific mortality: A prospective analysis in the NHANES I Epidemiologic Followup Study (NHEFS)
Cindy Ke Zhou1, Paul H. Levine2, Sean D. Cleary2, Heather J. Hoffman2, Barry I. Graubard1, and Michael B. Cook1
+ Author Affiliations

1Division of Cancer Epidemiology and Genetics, National Cancer Institute, Bethesda, MD;
2Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, George Washington University, Washington, DC.
Proceedings: AACR 106th Annual Meeting 2015; April 18-22, 2015; Philadelphia, PA
Abstract

Background: Androgenic action underlies prostate gland development and prostate cancer progression. However, the role of such in prostate carcinogenesis remains unclear. Results from studies that have quantitated pre-diagnostic, circulating androgens at a single time-point in relation to prostate cancer are inconsistent, possibly due to the failure to capture cumulative or relevant age-specific hormone exposure. Therefore, we used male pattern baldness as a proxy of long-term androgen exposure, and investigated the association between dermatologist-assessed male pattern baldness and prostate cancer-specific mortality in the NHANES-I Epidemiologic Followup Study (NHEFS).

Methods: We included 4,316 men from NHEFS, who were 25-74 years, received dermatologic exams, and had no prior cancer diagnosis at baseline. Hazard ratios (HRs) and 95% confidence intervals (95%CIs) were estimated using Cox proportional hazards regression with age as the time-metric and baseline hazard stratified by age at baseline. A hybrid model was used to account for stratification and clustering of the survey design, while adjusting for variables used to calculate sample weights.

Results: During follow-up (median = 21 years), 3,284 deaths occurred, 107 of which had the underlying cause of prostate cancer. Any degree of baldness was associated with a 56% increased risk of prostate cancer-specific mortality (HR = 1.56; 95%CI = 1.02, 2.37) and, specifically, moderate balding was associated with an 83% increased risk of the outcome (HR = 1.83; 95%CI = 1.15, 2.92), each compared with no balding. Conversely, male pattern baldness was not statistically significantly associated with all-cause mortality.

Conclusion: Our analysis suggests that male pattern baldness is associated with an increased risk of fatal prostate cancer, and supports the hypothesis of overlapping pathophysiological mechanisms.

Impact: If the association between male pattern baldness and fatal prostate cancer is substantiated in future studies, male pattern baldness may contribute to predictive algorithms of prostate cancer risk, helping guide individuals as to whether they should opt to undergo cancer screening.

Citation Format: Cindy Ke Zhou, Paul H. Levine, Sean D. Cleary, Heather J. Hoffman, Barry I. Graubard, Michael B. Cook. Male pattern baldness in relation to prostate cancer-specific mortality: A prospective analysis in the NHANES I Epidemiologic Followup Study (NHEFS). [abstract]. In: Proceedings of the 106th Annual Meeting of the American Association for Cancer Research; 2015 Apr 18-22; Philadelphia, PA. Philadelphia (PA): AACR; Cancer Res 2015;75(15 Suppl):Abstract nr 4603. doi:10.1158/1538-7445.AM2015-4603

[tipsfedora]

Then again ( gotta shoot myself in the foot )

I find this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/co...e_balding_men/


And to be honest Vin Diesel and Statham don't look anything special to me. So I guess most of us have been deluded about bald shaming to an extreme degree and that people who bald shame us are actually ones who got some issues with them. ( I remember one guy constantly picked on me cause of high forehead. After few years I found out he was balding. )

That being said, I hope there aren't anymore discriminating ads about about baldies like this one ad. I can easily accept baldness if I ever will have to since I am tall and got a face shape for it. But it hurts me to see ads like this for shaming people who didn't anything to be in that position.




tl;dr Work with what you've got and laugh at people, make them look crazy if you ever experience baldshaming.

[hellouser]

You are also using a really absurd comparation with cancer. What about fat people ? Why don't you go and tell all your fat friends to shut up about fat discrimination since some people have cancer ?
Also there is a study which concluded that cancer patients were mostly distressed because of their HAIR LOSS. It was THE MOST DISTURBING PART of whole process.
You also forgot that most of the presidents of USA were full haired. If you aren't aware of the HALO EFFECT and how deeply can it affect you in your career goals, you are done for.

TRUTH! Actually its much worse, hair loss negatively affects you in every single aspect of your life, not just career wise. To deny that is to have your head buried in the sand.