Follicum results vs Minoxidil, Great Promise

[macbeth81]

This was posted about last year, and the OP included a link to their patient.

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/17923-Follicum

[ghostrider]

10 years from now!

[burtandernie]

Nothing has released yet with 21st century cure bill so no one knows how fast it will speed anything up. Anything starting trials now isnt coming out for a very very long time.

[inbrugge]

If those results are on mice, I wouldn't get too excited. Everything seems to grow hair on mice!

That's true, but I guess the idea is if it grows hair better than minoxidil on mice, the improvement should translate to humans as well (since minox helps humans as well).

[JosephFT]

That's true, but I guess the idea is if it grows hair better than minoxidil on mice, the improvement should translate to humans as well (since minox helps humans as well).

I completely agree and applaud your logic.

I also see this being released commercially within about 4 years.

[JayM]

I completely agree and applaud your logic.

I also see this being released commercially within about 4 years.

Could you explain why you think this? Or why it will be faster than most trials?

[Renee]

Ha ha ha look at follicept it grew hair on mice better than minoxidil but on humans 0. So your logic is flawed.

[Renee]

Stop flooding this forums with bs creams and lotions that show hair growth on mice.

[JosephFT]

Perhaps the only question that some members of this site might ask themselves

"Am I really in favor of a new hair growth treatment coming to be?"

[Sogeking]

@JosephFT
Can you substantiate the claims for this coming to market in 4 years. Since this is a Swedish product (if I remember right) I guess they will go through EMA first. I don't know how long does it take to go through EMA, but I doubt it is as low as 4 years.

There have been plenty of new potential treatments growing hair on mice. Replicel had 50% new terminal hair growth in mice. Only 6-7 % average in humans in their Phase I trials.

And we all know about Follicept as the recent example.
Will this work? I have no problem about new treatment trying to come ot market but unless they show substantial hair growth in humans there is no point in caring about it.

[JosephFT]

Re: Sogeking

I did not make a claim that this would be available in 4 years. I have my own reasons why I feel that way and it's my personal opinion.

Replicel showed over 19% growth increase in multiple subjects and had issues with their transportation process of the conditioned cells in the first trial, according to David Hall CEO.

Follicept is still in development phase. Nothing has been proven one way or the other. Their official trial has not even commenced yet.

It didn't take a lot for me to come to these grounded conclusions about Replicel and Follicept which are both true.

My wish is that more people on this forum would realize that gratitude and support are the only way to get what you want.

I will not be debating/answering questions further with the people who do want to see things clearly.