Is there any chance to recover our hair in 5 years?

[macbeth81]

I think the mention about iPS cells is a misinterpretation by the authors. The information comes from the Japanese Yahoo article they link to.

I would assume their Phase I/IIa results were poor because the DSC cells did lose their inductive properties. They used a high dosage and said they were dosing down (see TBT Interview years ago). Hopefully a combination of improved cell culturing and fewer passages will yield more potent DSC cells and more growth. Knowing our luck though, we will find out 3 years from now that it is no improvement.

[joachim]

why is the article writing about iPS cells? replicel never used iPS cells to expand their DSC cells. or did they change the protocol? a switch from classical in vitro multiplication to iPS generated cells is a huge change.
because, the question never was answered, if replicel was able to multiply DSC cells without losing all the hair characteristics.
iPS cells would eliminate those multiplication problems, but only if they figured out how to convert iPS to DSC cells.

did anybody read iPS in conjunction with replicel elsewhere? this would be very surprising.

[balthazar35]

Meant transest, damp predictive text.

[balthazar35]

FUE is the only permanent fix at the minute I was Norwood 4 and just had 4600 grafts with Transept in Turkey, 1220 gbp, including hotel 2 nights and transfers everywhere plus recovery med, at this price it's affordable to everyone, I've got a pic but haven't got anywhere to link it to only cam out of op a few hours ago and can't sleep, results won't show for few months but delight with the look already transformational, med lasted me 7 years and topik 18 months, hopefully this will last me but in another 10 years I imagine I can get full density back

[JayM]

I just don't trust all this bs about the hair becoming androgen resistant with the replicel treatment. Maybe the new follicles will.

[rdawg]

I don't know if this is old news or if it is worth getting exited about it.
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/07/0...arket-by-2018/

That's just replicel, they are starting their next phase of trials this year.

None of us know if it will even work as phase I results didn't tell us much.

it's an interesting thing to keep track of though, just gotta see if it pans out.

[rbrown]

I don't know if this is old news or if it is worth getting exited about it.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/07/08/japanese-cosmetic-company-shiseido-expects-to-have-baldness-cure-on-the-market-by-2018/

[rbrown]

I don't know if this is old news or if it is worth getting exited about it.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/07/08/japanese-cosmetic-company-shiseido-expects-to-have-baldness-cure-on-the-market-by-2018/

[Paul73]

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Iīm sorry to hear about the sides on topical fin. I have been using oral fin for 18 years and never had sexual sides, but i worry about the impact of fin on my emotional health. Thatīs why i have been using the topical version too since i reduced the oral fin to 3 x week for the last year. No change in the results.

I would love to stop fin until 2016 and start CB, but it seems that we still donīt know much about itīs safety.

Iīll check your report this weekend. I hope you get better from these pain and burning.

[Desmond84]

Hey Paul,

Yes I am on the topical fin atm, but I'm starting to get some withdrawal effects that is starting to worry me. Last few days, I've been getting pain in the scrotum and slight burning when I go to the toilet as well as increased libido! I'll make a post about it this weekend. At this stage I would hold off on the topical formula until I figure out what is happening with my regimen. No shedding has happened yet and my scalp feels pretty good. Maybe this is a sign that we are halting hairloss at minimal systemic effects or it is simply not absorbing well enough. I'd wait another month or so before trialling the topical formula I posted. Let's see how my trial pans out

[Paul73]

In 5 years, we'll definitely have new treatments for AGA on the market, which is a huge milestone in itself. Hell, we thought we'll have something by 2016 and it didn't happen! But whether these upcoming treatments will regenerate our lost hair is highly doubtful. A safe bet would be, we'll have alternatives to Propecia that are side-free by 2020 and by 2025 we may have full hair follicle regeneration available in clinics around the world. Unfortunately that is the reality and that's something you need to plan your treatment regimen around.

Good points, Desmond. I have a similar perception about future treatments.

BTW, do you think that your current treatment will keep your hairs until 2020? If i am not wrong you are using only topical Fin, correct?

Thanks!

[Desmond84]

In 5 years, we'll definitely have new treatments for AGA on the market, which is a huge milestone in itself. Hell, we thought we'll have something by 2016 and it didn't happen! But whether these upcoming treatments will regenerate our lost hair is highly doubtful. A safe bet would be, we'll have alternatives to Propecia that are side-free by 2020 and by 2025 we may have full hair follicle regeneration available in clinics around the world. Unfortunately that is the reality and that's something you need to plan your treatment regimen around.

[barfacan]

We may get nothing.

[Occulus]

I think even if we get a finasteride-equivalent (WITHOUT any side effects) within the next 5 years, that would be a huge success

God, never mind sides, if we could get something that replaces Fin and actually grows hair, that would be a huge success. I've been on Fin for 16 years, and while I guess it's slowed my loss (I'll never really know), it hasn't stopped it, and it certainly didn't grow any hair for me.

[BoSox]

I think even if we get a finasteride-equivalent (WITHOUT any side effects) within the next 5 years, that would be a huge success

You're joking right? That's insane. So in 2020 we will have something that barely works if your lucky.

Oh, joy.