StayThick's Follicept Trial (4 week treatment)

[StayThick]

Hey guys, I also received the same generic email from Follicept. Look, I had the opportunity to meet Devon and Dr. Hsu in person so I can at least say they were nice in the sense of welcoming me to trial their new product and for discussing their goals with me regarding Follicept in greater detail. They took the time in their day to do this so I appreciate them for that.

However, I left our meeting with the feeling they would 100% NOT follow through on the clinical trial they have referenced and planned to carry out all these months. Don't ask how did I know, I just knew based on the questions I asked and the conversation that took place. I knew this would happen and I'm not shocked in the least. I pick these things up.

For everyone that has said thanks to me for trailing this on behalf of the forum, I say you're welcome. I drove several hours to do this to ensure this community could formulate their own opinion on this product from experiences from one of their own. That's what I did for you guys.

I will say that offering this product now for sale without a clinical trial that was harped on for months, leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. However, I do also have to understand that the people turned off by this new Follicept direction could have very well been the same folks complaining on why Follicept wasn't offering their treatment for those wanting it now during these small preliminary participant trials they conducted.

I saw countless thread responses on their forum for those begging to have access to this treatment before even knowing how to apply it or what it was, lol. As a result, I look at it from my perspective and then Follicept's, damn if you do - damn if you don't.

Me? I personally will not be buying this. Why? The price range is outlandish and the 4 weeks I trailed it, it honestly did nothing. I look at this rather simply, why would I buy this if I have tried it already, know at minimum it will do nothing with 4 weeks worth of purchased product, and when to date there is nothing that is remotely convincing this WILL EVER WORK! Sorry, not pulling the trigger.

I honestly wish Devon and Dr. HSU the best moving forward. They are trying to move their company in a positive direction and I don't blame them for realizing the model of let's release our product now, maximize earnings from a plethora of balding and unfortunate desperate men and never look back. Countless companies do this, it's business.

Every company is the same this day and age. Everyone wants to make a buck, it's how the world works. Can you blame Follicept for trying to capitalize on this vulnerable target market? Again, it's all business.

Unfortunately, I've been in this game too long and will not pony up my hard earned cash on anything that isn't proven to work. Period. Those are my thoughts.

[Trollicept]

Hey guys, Devon here. I have some exciting news about the early batch! We have decided to throw in a few special items that are only available if you pre-order. This limited edition of Follicept ™ will include a special hair thickening oil made from Burmese python glands, a transdermal comb, one of Devon’s old nightcaps and signed picture of of Dr Hsu playing golf.

First come, first served! You can make the payment through PayPal or by giving us your bank account details. Oh, and we also take bitcoins.

[cratusg]

Hahahahaha

[Hemo]

Ha. I actually think they might not offer the "experimental batch". Their site hasn't been updated in 3 days (they are moderating comments, so I tried to post to see when it might be accepted). Might just be dead.

[noquierosercalvo]

Those follicept guys are just scammers but with high level of ability, that even now, 4 months after and proben that doesnt work, people with more than ten years in this fall in his lies.

I read in lot of forums that they still think Follicept is not a scammer, saying thinks like " i know you are not a scammer..."i cant believe it, what he just did was make hype after that not work in 21 days and everyone said they need more time, yea ok..but he says...ok.. lets wait more..., now after 4 months they say they need more time and he only is seeing results that can not be appreciated in pics...lol.

A lot of people will buy it thinking it will need more time and this is obviously a strategy for say hey we are really sure this work on me im selling it,but need more time, and in this time he did the trick, he is a scammer but very well hidden, or not that well for some.

Sorry my english really. thanks.

[bornthisway]

I don't think it's fair to call them scammers. They at least did a trial and documented the entire process online showing it had no effect / didn't meet their initial beliefs on efficacy. So they're not really misrepresenting that it doesn't do anything but if people still want to buy it... that's on them. Unless they've taken down the images and are still making claims on the products effectiveness.

[noquierosercalvo]

The trial, show his face etc was all part of his plan since the start, to make people believe in it a lot and have hopes and no doubt this is going to works finally, yeah finally something, im saved!, thats work even on me, they did all of this because they knew this wont work, so then they will get less atacks or less very bad reputation after all of this.

But that was totally expected for them, but after all they did, they wont get bad reputation or even the people with stupid hopes will buy it, perfect plan.

Yeah i watch too many movies but this is how this people mind works.

[Hicks]

For some fin can take a year to see noticeable results and over 2 years to see full results.

Some on this forum have more money than they know what to do with. Let them put that to work.

At the end of the day follicept is a business but a side business to their bigger business. Follicept was created on an idea of hey we can get this to market without FDA approval. From a business stand point it makes perfect sense to try but IMO they have bigger fish frying and they are shutting follicept down or throwing us a bone. Maybe investors had a say.

[Trollicept]

For some fin can take a year to see noticeable results and over 2 years to see full results.

Some on this forum have more money than they know what to do with. Let them put that to work.

At the end of the day follicept is a business but a side business to their bigger business. Follicept was created on an idea of hey we can get this to market without FDA approval. From a business stand point it makes perfect sense to try but IMO they have bigger fish frying and they are shutting follicept down or throwing us a bone. Maybe investors had a say.

Thanks pal!

[Hicks]

Thanks pal!
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Lol no doubt!

[Banana Republic]

At the end of the day follicept is a business but a side business to their bigger business.

This doesn't justify their dishonesty. "Safe, affordable, and effective" was a lie. "We also won't take your money until we are 100% confident in our product and have human results to show you" was another lie.

Nothing is wrong with doing business. Everything is wrong with lying.

[Trollicept]

This doesn't justify their dishonesty. "Safe, affordable, and effective" was a lie. "We also won't take your money until we are 100% confident in our product and have human results to show you" was another lie.

Nothing is wrong with doing business. Everything is wrong with lying.

I understand your concerns but we are looking to build momentum and excitement in advance of a launch, not rip off a desperate population. So we won't take your money until we prove that it works in humans, and that we have a safe, effective product for you. We know you're tired and skeptical, and this is a big claim. Just hang tight and have faith. Oh, and don't forget to type in the code HSUTANG4LYFE when you pre-order your batch to get a 20 % discount on the selected Follicept ™ hats and t-shirts!

[Banana Republic]

I understand your concerns but we are looking to build momentum and excitement in advance of a launch, not rip off a desperate population. So we won't take your money until we prove that it works in humans, and that we have a safe, effective product for you. We know you're tired and skeptical, and this is a big claim. Just hang tight and have faith. Oh, and don't forget to type in the code HSUTANG4LYFE when you pre-order your batch to get a 20 % discount on the selected Follicept ™ hats and t-shirts!

LOL: Devon must think we're monkeys, always hanging in there.

[cratusg]

I understand your concerns but we are looking to build momentum and excitement in advance of a launch, not rip off a desperate population. So we won't take your money until we prove that it works in humans, and that we have a safe, effective product for you. We know you're tired and skeptical, and this is a big claim. Just hang tight and have faith. Oh, and don't forget to type in the code HSUTANG4LYFE when you pre-order your batch to get a 20 % discount on the selected Follicept ™ hats and t-shirts!

Haha I love you, please keep making posts like these

[Trollicept]

Steve Hsu: I do care and I do follow this forum closely. I never ever attempt to try to control the "soundscape" because it's impossible and not even desirable. Put another way, if you post on this forum, then you care enough to ask hard questions, to challenge us and each other, and occasionally to even champion us! I read, I listen. I learn. I see the lampooning of me (very impressive, by the way), but I don't respond. If you are on this forum, then you care one way or another. That's all that really matters to me.

Occasionally and with good reason and sound judgement, Devon tells me that "they need an update from you." That last one was tough on me because I knew that it was going to cause a "problem" (to put it mildly) one way or another. I anticipated all of the conspiracy theories, assumptions, conclusions, etc., which you had every right and reason to voice. Disappointment, discouragement, despair, feeling defeated. Angry, confused, let down, betrayed, promises and trust seemingly broken. Did I miss anything?. I know all about those experiences first hand--each and every one of them and more.

The poet David Whyte once said in a retreat that if you don't experience disappointment, discouragement, despair, and defeat in your journey through life, then you are not trying hard enough! He goes on to say that every beautiful mind and every beautiful life grows out of these experiences and can still affirm that their incarnation as human beings is still an amazing gift. So, congratulations to us all.

I'm relieved that no one got it right. I'm equally frustrated that no one got it right because it's really a classic case for Sherlock Holmes: "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"

Here's a clue. The answer you are seeking is already on this website.