Further Follicept civil conversation

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  • TheUltimatePoet
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 51

    Me too.

    I understand that there are certain parties that are making lots of money on the current situation and do not want to see any new, improved treatments. I can't really see them sabotaging the potential competition with lame internet trolling, but you just never know...

    Edit:
    You know what. Just forget I said anything. Most likely some random idiot troll, not some deep conspiracy. I need to sleep.
    Last edited by TheUltimatePoet; 05-25-2015, 06:13 PM. Reason: Sleep deprivation

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    • sdsurfin
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 702

      so it's definitely a fake comment? Doesn't sound like devon but hmm

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      • jamesst11
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1067

        I don't see any possible scenario in which Follicept would be testing their product, which they have no idea will work or not, and then just give up and publicize it immediately after the complete application. It must be fake. That makes no sense. Even if they did decide to quit, they would have written a much better post than that brief crap.

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        • champpy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 336

          I just remembered something in regards to staythicks claim that the igf may have caused some massive shedding.
          Back in the old follicept thread, somewhere in the 187 pgs, someone pasted a quote from a past igf user that said something like "using this stuff is making my hair come out like crazy"
          The person who pasted that quote was taking that to mean the hair was growing like crazy, but i literally think the OP meant he was losing hair like crazy.
          It just hit me tonight because if true, staythick is not the first person whos experience this massive shedding from igf.
          if someone wants to go through that old thread and find that quote be my guest. it's definitely in there somewhere.

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          • thejack
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 172

            They should cancel the forum and just update results which is still far more engagement than we have ever received. Some people are acting like monkeys and it has put me off even looking for updates as frequently as I normally would

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            • DanWS
              Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 68

              No results worth noting thus far. If this treatment works hopefully we'll see some early responders by the 2 month mark.

              StayThick sorry to hear about the sudden shed, hopefully it's a good sign. Did you apply the treatment again yesterday and if so how did you respond?

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              • Keki
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 232

                If it doesn't give to human a single vellus in the next weeks means that every rats publications are a complete joke and should be banned, i will consider only trial to human and human only like setipriprant, sm and bim

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by Keki
                  If it doesn't give to human a single vellus in the next weeks means that every rats publications are a complete joke and should be banned, i will consider only trial to human and human only like setipriprant, sm and bim
                  I've been saying this for years. Nobody cares though, everyones obsessed about rat/mouse studies.

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                  • Illusion
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 500

                    Originally posted by Keki
                    If it doesn't give to human a single vellus in the next weeks means that every rats publications are a complete joke and should be banned
                    Accurate reasoning

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                    • just2hairs
                      Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 39

                      Originally posted by champpy
                      I just remembered something in regards to staythicks claim that the igf may have caused some massive shedding.
                      Back in the old follicept thread, somewhere in the 187 pgs, someone pasted a quote from a past igf user that said something like "using this stuff is making my hair come out like crazy"
                      The person who pasted that quote was taking that to mean the hair was growing like crazy, but i literally think the OP meant he was losing hair like crazy.
                      It just hit me tonight because if true, staythick is not the first person whos experience this massive shedding from igf.
                      if someone wants to go through that old thread and find that quote be my guest. it's definitely in there somewhere.
                      Yes, you're right, i read that as well.

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                      • nameless
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 965

                        Originally posted by just2hairs
                        Yes, you're right, i read that as well.
                        This means nothing. You have no idea what the other poster meant and a shed is most likely a good sign if there even was a shed.

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                        • nameless
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 965

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          I've been saying this for years. Nobody cares though, everyones obsessed about rat/mouse studies.
                          Did you know that the subjects will only use the Follicept for 4 weeks? I'm not saying they have to use it longer but it sure does not seem long enough. They say that the mouse study showed continued efficacy after after the treatment was discontinued but I don't think it's smart to think that the same thing will happen with humans.

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                          • champpy
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 336

                            I just don't believe a "shed" is always positive. I say this because I have given every treatment a try, I shed, nothing ever grows back. It just increases the rate of loss. To say that someone is losing hair and its a good thing just cannot always be true. Hate to say it, but not everyone get the same regrowth that others may get.

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                            • sdsurfin
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 702

                              Originally posted by Keki
                              If it doesn't give to human a single vellus in the next weeks means that every rats publications are a complete joke and should be banned, i will consider only trial to human and human only like setipriprant, sm and bim
                              Subject 5 definitely has a lot more vellus at this point, and from what I can tell both devon and subject 2 have improved their hair cover at the edges of the bald areas. most people are reporting more vellus hair. Whether it will go beyond this is still up in the air. they might try different dosages too.

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                              • Keki
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 232

                                Originally posted by sdsurfin
                                Subject 5 definitely has a lot more vellus at this point, and from what I can tell both devon and subject 2 have improved their hair cover at the edges of the bald areas. most people are reporting more vellus hair. Whether it will go beyond this is still up in the air. they might try different dosages too.
                                You can see the same amount of vellus on week 0, just different light and angle and camera focus, devon had a little longer hairs and some locks of hairs more straight on the scalp, we all know what is real regrowth, on july we will have an answer

                                honestly i don't understand at all why they didn't buy a simple crap 20$ usb camera, it's not trichoscan but much better then the pics we have now

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