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  • cuprous
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 17

    Originally posted by Keki
    A shed happen only with minox becuse it push and synchronize a new hair cycle, so it's a good thing only for minox users
    This could also be happening to StayThick. His scalp could be kicking off a whole new hair growth cycle with the shed being the first sign.

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, StayThick.

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    • serenemoon
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 210

      Originally posted by StayThick
      Guys the concern I have is how quickly this all occurred. I haven't had a shed in God knows how long. Just sporadic shedding daily like most. Trust me, I pay attention to anything/everything that involves my hair. In the shower, when I brush, etc.

      I can confirm this was rather startling for me. How can shedding be a good thing in my case considering I've only used 2 vials!!!

      I explained this to the Follicept team and they mentioned of few theories but they don't know for sure obviously.

      I've been on this forum for a while, I've seen people try RU, Propecia, Rogaine, etc. and experience sheds, but usually it takes a little time for this to occur.

      Where I am king up is after the 2nd dose? Thoughts guys? Wtf.
      Here ya go.

      Allergic contact dermatitis of the scalp should be included among the possible causes of telogen effluvium. The pathogenesis of telogen effluvium caused by contact dermatitis is unknown but may be related to cytokine release during the inflammatory process.


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      • Keki
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 232

        Originally posted by cuprous
        This could also be happening to StayThick. His scalp could be kicking off a whole new hair growth cycle with the shed being the first sign.

        I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, StayThick.
        this is not possible in 2 days come on...

        it's interestign because

        1) Reaction on the second application and not the first one, while if it was an allergy it should have started a soon as he applied it
        2) shed only in area with good density
        3) itch but not inflammed skin


        dunno dude, if i were in you i would try a last HALF dose tomorrow and see what happen (maybe wash before and after), if you are concerned about an allergy then drop the treatment

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        • serenemoon
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 210

          What shampoo/conditioner do you use? Curious. This is definitely assumption on my part, but it may be that contact dermatitis was caused by shampoo residue reacting with Follicept gel? If you are going to try this again, I would even suggest using a mild shampoo, maybe even a natural/organic one (though that won't guanratee that you won't get it again for sure, but worth a shot.)

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          • StayThick
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 624

            Originally posted by Keki
            this is not possible in 2 days come on...

            it's interestign because

            1) Reaction on the second application and not the first one, while if it was an allergy it should have started a soon as he applied it
            2) shed only in area with good density
            3) itch but not inflammed skin


            dunno dude, if i were in you i would try a last HALF dose tomorrow and see what happen (maybe wash before and after), if you are concerned about an allergy then drop the treatment
            Remember, the treatment schedule is M-W-F. So I'm not due for another application until Monday...and I'm scared the F to do it.

            What would you honestly do considering my situation? I told Devon and Steve my concerns and the next few days would be vital in seeing how my hair reacts. Come Monday, I might apply another dose and monitor but for now I'm going to see how my scalp acts the next few days before committing. That's how alarmed I am.

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            • StayThick
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 624

              Originally posted by serenemoon
              What shampoo/conditioner do you use? Curious. This is definitely assumption on my part, but it may be that contact dermatitis was caused by shampoo residue reacting with Follicept gel? If you are going to try this again, I would even suggest using a mild shampoo, maybe even a natural/organic one (though that won't guanratee that you won't get it again for sure, but worth a shot.)
              I use Revita shampoo and conditioner. Never had any issues with this combo before.

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              • serenemoon
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 210

                Originally posted by StayThick
                I use Revita shampoo and conditioner. Never had any issues with this combo before.
                I hear ya. My concern is not the shampoo/conditioner itself, but its residue and its reaction with follicept gel. Worth a shot, but it is your call. I can only imagine the fear you feel. I am positive it is contact dermatitis though. TE happens with contact dermatitis.

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                • serenemoon
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 210

                  Would you be open to trying it on a small swatch of skin?

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                  • Keki
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 232

                    Dude i suggest you to use a natural shampoo while using follicept, remember a lot of shit can pass the stratum corneum with their vehicle, shit that is not designed to pass the skin, just use water, a really fast shampoo to get rid of the sebum and dead hairs, wait a little and use half doses to see what happen, it dooesn't make any sense the allergic reaction to half scalp where you had density while nothing on the thin side

                    serenemoon that study talk about telogen effluvium 4 month after the dermatitis, i mean it could still be possible but only with an acid chinese crap which burn everything or a real allergic reaction

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                    • StayThick
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 624

                      Originally posted by serenemoon
                      Would you be open to trying it on a small swatch of skin?
                      Where on leg hair, arm hair? I would be willing to try this yes.

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                      • serenemoon
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 210

                        Originally posted by StayThick
                        Where on leg hair, arm hair? I would be willing to try this yes.
                        Wonderful. Try it on your leg, I say. I wanna see if it causes irritation and itch there too.

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                        • StayThick
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 624

                          Originally posted by serenemoon
                          Wonderful. Try it on your leg, I say. I wanna see if it causes irritation and itch there too.
                          I'm currently waiting for the vial to turn into gel. I'll be attempting this shortly.

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                          • bigentries
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 465

                            You better show your pics StayThick

                            I choose to remain skeptic to many big claims, for and against. Do you understand what you are claiming it's a pretty big deal? Maybe you are imagining the amount of shedding, it's easy to get paranoid when starting a treatment, specially something that at this point it's experimental

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                            • serenemoon
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 210

                              Originally posted by bigentries
                              You better show your pics StayThick

                              I choose to remain skeptic to many big claims, for and against. Do you understand what you are claiming it's a pretty big deal? Maybe you are imagining the amount of shedding, it's easy to get paranoid when starting a treatment, specially something that at this point it's experimental
                              Leave the dude alone man, This is not the time.

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                              • serenemoon
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 210

                                Originally posted by StayThick
                                I'm currently waiting for the vial to turn into gel. I'll be attempting this shortly.
                                Okay, hoping for the best! Thanks for even trying this out.

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