AAPE Trials - I'll be experimenting with it

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  • nofintowin
    Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 44

    #46
    only AAPE - would be willing to try a good meso c0cktail, but haven't yet looked into this. Any idea where to buy a quality meso vitamin combo?

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    • zeos
      Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 54

      #47
      could you please ask your doctor if he is willing to contact the harg clinic for collecting more information?

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      • JHtotheT
        Junior Member
        • May 2015
        • 7

        #48
        Originally posted by zeos
        could you please ask your doctor if he is willing to contact the harg clinic for collecting more information?

        This is a very interesting development. Backed by several studies, accessible and not something you need to take every day

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        • JHtotheT
          Junior Member
          • May 2015
          • 7

          #49
          Originally posted by NOhairNOlife
          I can confirm the postremics sales rep (heavin) responds very quickly.

          I haven't ordered it yet. Need to research a little more
          I tried to email her but have not received a response yet after 3 days. Did she answer <3 days to you?

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          • enterprise951
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 12

            #50
            Nofintowin, hello, hey you previously mentioned Prasad was a rip off, ive been researching the treatment he offers and the results he claims because im considering going with him, could you tell me the negative feedback you know or heard of him so that I can have more info, because as you said, he has a good internet presentation and I havent been able to find negative reviews of his treatment in the net, if you could please share with me what you know to help me evaluate him as an option, id be very grateful

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            • nofintowin
              Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 44

              #51
              It's not like he's a fraud or anything. He does legit PRP, and apparently adds Vitamin D and a few other things to it. However, he charges an exorbitant amount - $5000. I suspect some of the patients who had good results (based on before after pics he shows) may have started taking the Big 3 at the same time.

              Do you have an understanding of PRP? How in the world can someone charge $5,000. Studies show that PRP works, if at all, with repeated use every 3-4 weeks for around 5-6 sessions. I know you must be feeling desperate, but why don't you just go to a PRP doctor who charges more around $600-$900 (I can't name my doctor, but there are a few others in NY - Dr. Jeffrey Rapaport (10 mins away from NY in NJ - I've been to him once but don't think he does the most efficient PRP and barely spends any time on you, i.e. activating PRP, dermarolling after, etc)), Dr. Halland Chan (on park ave, with good reviews and I've had a friend who went to him and was really happy). Get treated 5-6 times by these guys. One session of PRP isn't going to do anything. Even some doctors I spoke to aroudn here mentioned Amiya Prasad and his tactics - how he tries to get away with charging exorbitant prices, and has a couple of different websites + pays for google adveritisng to have his sites at the top when you search PRP manhattan, etc.

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              • enterprise951
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 12

                #52
                Thanks for the info, yes ive researched the prp treatment, its just that the treatment offered by this doctor specifically offers that it is a standalone treatment with a duration of 5 years or more(he says 5 years because he has only administered the treatment for that time but says it could last longer), he claims big success with it, if that is true id be willing to go for the treatment, anyway I know he could just be lying.

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                • nofintowin
                  Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 44

                  #53
                  Ok, I'm offering a PRP that lasts for 10 years for $2500. Want to come to my clinic? Lol...

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                  • enterprise951
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 12

                    #54
                    hahaha, well guess the problem is that big part of the tratments against hairloss are based on anecdotal results, thanks anyway

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                    • JHtotheT
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 7

                      #55
                      Originally posted by nofintowin
                      Ok, I'm offering a PRP that lasts for 10 years for $2500. Want to come to my clinic? Lol...
                      NoFinToWin: I have a few questions about ordering, but the forum does not allow me to send you a PM. Can I send U an email?

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                      • nofintowin
                        Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 44

                        #56
                        Just ask them here, I'm sure it'll help others with ordering

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                        • Swooping
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 794

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Sogeking
                          Damn, if I were to get this I don't know which doctor I can contact that will administer this to me.
                          Also one thing to note, the study that was linked showed it could give some regrowth but over a longer period of time. Basically a patient in the study showed some cosmetically significant regrowth well after two years of AAPE being administered to him.
                          So you guys will have to play the long game.
                          Sogeking, you don't necessarily need to apply it with injections. Microneedling at a depth of like 1.5 mm will do too. Microneedling disrupts the stratum corneum and can deliver big molecules easily across the skin that way.

                          In fact they do this in Japan too. They can deliver AAPE-HARG either through injections, microneedling, jet-gun, or a fractional laser from what I saw.

                          Check for instance here on these sites; http://www.koseido.net/harg/ http://www.harg.org/ , http://www.0120669970.com/harg.html , http://www.kirei-kirei-sendai.jp/m_hair.php. Translate it so you can browse a bit.

                          Here is a study for instance that shows that microneedling can transport molecules up to at least 72kDa; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17196697

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                          • JHtotheT
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 7

                            #58
                            Originally posted by nofintowin
                            Just ask them here, I'm sure it'll help others with ordering
                            Were you asked if you were a doctor? Did you have to send some kind of ID confirmation?

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                            • Sogeking
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 494

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Swooping
                              Sogeking, you don't necessarily need to apply it with injections. Microneedling at a depth of like 1.5 mm will do too. Microneedling disrupts the stratum corneum and can deliver big molecules easily across the skin that way.

                              In fact they do this in Japan too. They can deliver AAPE-HARG either through injections, microneedling, jet-gun, or a fractional laser from what I saw.

                              Check for instance here on these sites; http://www.koseido.net/harg/ http://www.harg.org/ , http://www.0120669970.com/harg.html , http://www.kirei-kirei-sendai.jp/m_hair.php. Translate it so you can browse a bit.

                              Here is a study for instance that shows that microneedling can transport molecules up to at least 72kDa; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17196697
                              Thanks for that. Might go that route than. Hmm can't really tell how thick 1.5mm is when observing it from the viewpoint of skin itself. Meaning how hard would I need to use dermaroller? Also how do I know I peeled enough of skin away? And after using dermaroller I would just apply AAPE like minox right?

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                              • nofintowin
                                Member
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 44

                                #60
                                @swooping - have you started trialing the AAPE yet? What's your method of adminsitering it. I'm currently using injections. My doctor wants to buy a mesogun to trial this, so he's been charging me more to cover the cost of the gun, but I feel like this may not be worth the additional cost

                                @JHtotheT - no, they didn't ask if I was a doctor, nor did they need ID confirmation. Again, I did mention my doctors name but I don't think that mattered - like I said before, seems like they don't mind consumers having access to this.

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