Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

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  • maver1ck
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 13

    Allergan released their q2 report and there is only 1 mention of BIM and its that its starting phase 3 as a treatment for glaucoma

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    • JayM
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 411

      Joke

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      • Pelopeleon
        Junior Member
        • May 2014
        • 29

        Originally posted by maver1ck
        Allergan released their q2 report and there is only 1 mention of BIM and its that its starting phase 3 as a treatment for glaucoma
        As a treatment for glaucoma? Are you f**** kidding me?

        Well, I was waiting for some good news...

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        • JayM
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 411

          Well it is used for treating glaucoma...

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          • maver1ck
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 13

            Originally posted by JayM
            Well it is used for treating glaucoma...
            Does that have any value to us?

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            • JayM
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 411

              Well the guy asked if they were kidding... so I thought it was best to mention that it being used for glaucoma hasn't come out the blue. So it certainly has value to the guy I wrote it to pal.

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              • barfacan
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 76

                It's over fellas, close this thread. BIM is a BUST

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                • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 330

                  Quel ****ing surprise.

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                  • dus
                    Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 87

                    If BIM for hair was scrapped they would tell investors. Everybody take a chill pill. The waiting game continues.

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                    • maver1ck
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 13

                      Originally posted by dus
                      If BIM for hair was scrapped they would tell investors. Everybody take a chill pill. The waiting game continues.
                      If BIM was so promising as everyone had been led to believe then why not mention anything to the investors if it was successful?

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                      • dus
                        Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 87

                        Originally posted by maver1ck
                        If BIM was so promising as everyone had been led to believe then why not mention anything to the investors if it was successful?
                        There is ZERO speculation in my post. I don't know what to make of BIM and will just wait for an official statement.

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                        • rdawg
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 996

                          Originally posted by maver1ck
                          Allergan released their q2 report and there is only 1 mention of BIM and its that its starting phase 3 as a treatment for glaucoma
                          2nd form of treatment BIM has gone to phase III on(first was eyelash growth which got approved).

                          Safety doesn't seem to be an issue here, something is up behind the scenes with the hairloss trial, patent issues maybe?

                          All signs point to this drug being safe and at least in theory effective, so what's the hold up!

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                          • Parsia
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 147

                            Originally posted by dus
                            There is ZERO speculation in my post. I don't know what to make of BIM and will just wait for an official statement.
                            Ok then , Guys lets concentrate on something we have out there ! I believe the treatment is not only Two damn fda approved ! Remember
                            took centuries for human to discover U.S , So there are many potents things out there for treatment baldness , we just have find our own way ! I won't follow this anymore.

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                            • champpy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 336

                              Follicept. Failed.
                              Bim scalp. Failed
                              what potential treatment we are hoping for will be the next one to enter this treatment graveyard?
                              This is so discouraging. Even if they said yeah its coming and it works, but will be a year or more away, i would be elated. I just want hope. All we get is false hope and then we are smacked back to reality each time.

                              Follicept and bim were the only things we might possibly get our hands on in 2015. Now those seem dead and buried.

                              Does anyone know where is a reputable place to buy pure bim powder. Im tempted to just buy the stuff myself and do a test of 1-2%, even if its expensive as hell. Im tired of the waiting game. None of us are getting any younger.

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                              • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 584

                                Originally posted by champpy
                                Follicept. Failed.
                                Bim scalp. Failed
                                what potential treatment we are hoping for will be the next one to enter this treatment graveyard?
                                This is so discouraging. Even if they said yeah its coming and it works, but will be a year or more away, i would be elated. I just want hope. All we get is false hope and then we are smacked back to reality each time.

                                Follicept and bim were the only things we might possibly get our hands on in 2015. Now those seem dead and buried.

                                Does anyone know where is a reputable place to buy pure bim powder. Im tempted to just buy the stuff myself and do a test of 1-2%, even if its expensive as hell. Im tired of the waiting game. None of us are getting any younger.
                                Still no evidence that bim has failed. Technically, the last trial ended in September, because that's when the primary outcome measure was taken. It has been a very long time, and still, they haven't release results to investors. There is a difference between releasing results to the public and releasing them to investors. Something else is going on here.

                                When BiqqieSmalls (a shareholder) called them a few months ago, he was told that the results haven't been released yet because of the "complexity of bimatoprost." Also, that they would be released "in a few months." A "few" is a pretty loose term, but it could mean 3-5 months. It's been a very long time, and they could have said it failed.

                                Investor relations could have dissuaded him and said it didn't do well, without giving any actual details or figures. Instead, they were like a stone wall. There is no reason for this company to be afraid of poor results from this drug for the scalp, because it clearly works for eyelashes and glaucoma. Therefore it's not a total failure. No loss to say it doesn't work for the scalp. But they haven't said that, and they haven't said that for nearly a year.

                                I have said all along that they do not want the word getting out that it works, because labs, individuals, and maybe other reputable companies would go ahead and purchase bimatoprost in bulk and formulate it themselves. I've also pointed out that in the past, when they were developing latisse, many people tried to get their hands on it (as noted by David Pyott, former CEO of Allergan). This is MPB, not eyelashes, the demand would be greater. The main deterrent is that bim powder is very expensive, and nobody knows if it works. By not letting anyone know, they have the power. They will not release results until they have a product ready to market or sell.

                                Bim is not dead, but if nothing is announced between now and January, then it is dead imo.

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