MPB at 18? Tell me bluntly, am I going to be bald by the time I reach mid-20s?

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  • KO1
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    18 is not too young to be *****ing with your hormones. You're right that finasteride may cause sexual sides, guess what, so does balding!

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  • lukey
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    I thought I would chime in seeing as I was in a similar situation. I started receeding when I was 17/18 and I'm now 26 and a NW 3, my crown is still very good but my hairline is terrible. I've only been on fin for about 18 months as I waited 2 years before starting it because I was scared of sides. I really regret that decision as I'm sure my hairline would be a lot better now if I had started it straight away. I do get sides from fin, I only take 0.3mgs a day as that's the most I can go before it gets too bad. I don't have any problems with libido at this dosage I get erections when I want them I just don't get morning erections anymore. I understand what people are saying about possible sides but the chances of you getting permanent sides if you started fin and realised it wasn't good for you are very slim. My advice would be to start out on very small doses and then work your way up and if you are getting bad sides then either lower the dosage or stop completely.

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  • sdsurfin
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    Originally posted by KO1
    The only answer to this question is - take finasteride, and you will be fine, baldness is a choice. Just ignore the "fin is poison" crowd.
    I've been to three dermatologists who have said that they do not prescribe finasteride because they know it is dangerous. there is no discussion to be had. Yes, a lot people can use it without FEELING anything, but bottom line it is halting the production of an enzyme that has many positive actions. HT docs push this drug because their livelihoods depend on it, and desperate balding young guys take it and ignore the way it makes their bodies feel and change. Best case scenario is you don't feel side effects, and then when you get off the drug a few years down the line you will either be messed up from it or finally understand how different and vigorous your cody could have been if you didn't take it. If you're going to try an AA, at least try RU, as it is non steroidal and has much less potential for lasting side effects.

    18 though is way too young to **** with your hormones. If you wan to take that risk wait tip you at least know that you're really losing your hair. I did not really develop into a mans full physicality until my mid twenties, your body has much growing and changing to do still. Take my advice and go to a hair doctor and see if you are even losing hair anywhere except the temples, which most guys lose. I can name hundreds of men who lost their temples in their young age and stopped there. If you indeed have miniaturization/shedding/etc then use minox first and see how long that tides you over. chances are you won't even begin thinning in most areas until you are 3 or four years further down the road, and by then there will likely be better drugs. don't listen to the older guys on here who have been around forever. they do not understand that hair loss science has essentially just started in the past few years, and that future breakthroughs do not correlate to past frustrations. Medicine in general was in a stagnating state for a long time, but that is no longer the case. They just cured alopecia areata and more recently psoriasis, and mpb is a bit more complex, but the individual pathways downstream fro the androgen receptor are just started to be targeted.

    most of all enjoy your youth, you have hair now and look normal, and you will never get these years back. im pretty sure my own hair is improving, or at least maintaining on adenogen twice a day, and then zyrtec mixed with water and applied topically at night, and have zero side effects besides some persistent itching which i think started from using minoxidil a year ago or so. I think combinations of new treatments will definitely make finasteride unnecessary in the next couple of years. The PGD2 science is not horseshit as some members would have you believe, and will help you not lose more hair. between SM, bimatoprost, follicept, and CB, we are looking at something probably working out to promote growth. and if you are 18 you are quite lucky, a preventative cure is probably within grasp while you're still VERY young. so don't fret too much. let your dermatologist counsel you and take very great care with drugs that have serious risks.

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  • Swooping
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    Originally posted by KO1
    baldness is a choice.
    Quoted for truth.

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  • KO1
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    The only answer to this question is - take finasteride, and you will be fine, baldness is a choice. Just ignore the "fin is poison" crowd.

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  • mlamber5
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    Originally posted by sdsurfin
    also just because someone on here lost their temples at 18 and then was bald in 5 years does not mean you will be the same. lots of guys go bald very slowly, id say the forum posters who have aggressive balding are more an exception than a rule. my uncles had a totally bald dad, and they started balding in their early 30's. they are in their late 50s and are still not totally bald but getting there. Most men go bald at some point, and hopefully you will still be very young when new treatment come out in the next few years. there are some things in the pipeline that have real possibility. I wouldn't go messing about with your hormones just yet. if you're gonna use something use minox or adenogen, i know a lot of guys who stopped losing hair for several years on minox, and that may be enough to tide you over for some better treatments.
    +1. Messing with your hormones is not the answer. It's what happens after the predisposed androgen receptors set off the cascade of events that lead to AGA over time that need to be focused on, and are being focused on. Good things are down the road for halting hair loss, with the potential of even reversing it. How long it will take is the question.

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  • sdsurfin
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    also just because someone on here lost their temples at 18 and then was bald in 5 years does not mean you will be the same. lots of guys go bald very slowly, id say the forum posters who have aggressive balding are more an exception than a rule. my uncles had a totally bald dad, and they started balding in their early 30's. they are in their late 50s and are still not totally bald but getting there. Most men go bald at some point, and hopefully you will still be very young when new treatment come out in the next few years. there are some things in the pipeline that have real possibility. I wouldn't go messing about with your hormones just yet. if you're gonna use something use minox or adenogen, i know a lot of guys who stopped losing hair for several years on minox, and that may be enough to tide you over for some better treatments.

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  • sdsurfin
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    Originally posted by Nigguh
    Hey there, I just posted the pics of my current hairline (pics were taken about 5mins ago). I'm an individual that's about 18years old, Please tell me, Am I gonna be bald soon? And no need to 'sugarcoat' it if that's the case (I've seen how nice the people are here but a logical and truthfully laid out comment would be the best for me right now). I am freaking out these days about it, to be honest, so if you've got time, then please tell me, Am I a victim of MPB too? Thank you for your time guys. Please, help a fellow victim out.

    About my family side:

    Dad's side:
    My dad lost most of his age till he was 28, I believe.
    Most of brothers have a u-shaped hairline
    And my grandfather was bald too (don't know when he became bald)

    Mom's side:
    Grandfather: My mom's father had a full head of hair until he was dead. I don't know if he had a u-shape hairline like mine, since he was dead before I was born
    My first and third uncle had full head of hair while my second uncle's head has gone bald around the age of 55

    My brother is bald at the age of 27

    So yes, please tell me the condition of my hairline, as you think it is. Thank you yet again.
    Its really hard for anyone to answer this. baldness depends on many genes and combinations of genes, so really anything is possible. considering your family history though id say you're probably gonna lose your hair at some point, especially since you're showing signs at 18. however, i know people who developed a u shaped hairline in their teens and kept it like that until they died. you can go to a HT doctor and have them tell you if you have miniaturization anywhere other than the temples. if you don't then you should hold off on potentially dangerous drugs. Look at Jon Hamm from mad men, he has no hair in the temples and his dad was totally bald, but he has a great head of hair otherwise. My guess unfortunately, since you have bald guys all over your family tree, is that you probably won't get yo your 40s with a complete head of hair. but most guys don't. whether you will have a full head in your twenties really who knows, you could be like your brother or have slightly different genetics and not lose it until much later. I would stay off the treatments until a doctor tells you where you are thinning, and then when you have confirmation that you're losing it anywhere other than the temples, consider your options wisely. in my opinion finasteride is poison, and minoxidil gave me a terrible itch that still hasn't gone away even after a year of stopping. i think it resets hair cycles and can do some damage if you don't actually need it yet.

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  • aman825
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    I recently posted a thread on my baldness,well dude these people are giving good advice but one advice out of medication i want to give as i started balding at the age of 15,please dont loose your cool anytime due to your hairloss and remember it will make you a hell lot strong
    Hair loss at any age can be devastating, but to begin the hair loss process as a teenager is beyond the scope of what most teens will ever be forced to cope with. A larger percentage of boys deal with the early onset of male pattern hair loss than most people realize. An estimated 20%...

    Check out this link,Spencer has given a good audio response
    Remember always the priorities of your life and dont allow hair loss to take over that

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  • mcarpenter089
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    I would need to see a picture to determine your future.

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  • Trenblastoise
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    Originally posted by Nigguh
    I also oil massage my hair and scalp every other day.
    Massaging you scalp doesn't do anything, perhaps some more blood, which contains DHT(dihydrotestosterone) which is what "kills"(The cells doesn't actually die, they shut off because of the stress) the dermal papilla as far as I know It's not the lack of blood supply that causes male pattern baldness.



    And minoxidil is a "temporary" drug. It works for about 2-3 years, then you will lose quicker than if you didn't use it. If you want to keep your hair through medication, when you got genetic hair loss as a man, you need to go on finasteride. This can cause several severe irreversible side effects, so you will have to think about the risks and look up information.

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by Nigguh
    Thank you for the reply, rdawg. About the medication. I've started going on minoxidil around my temple areas, not the crown and vertex, though, since the hair are currently pretty thick there. I apply it every night before sleeping. I also oil massage my hair and scalp every other day. I don't know about fin, though. What else should I do, according to you?
    Fin is far more important than minoxidil, go to your local doctor and ask for propecia or generic proscar(break it up into quarters) if you want it cheaper. Minoxidil may give you some slight thickening or growth at first, but largely doesn't do much(i honestly just keep using it because it gives a slight thickening and volumizing affect to my hair the next day)

    fin is what maintains the hair your have. other than that there's not much you can do, you can add something like Nizoral or S5 cream but both are very optional and have a minor effect at best.

    of course there are grey market things like RU that some people use, but I wouldnt use that until after trying fin first.

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by joel203
    how long have you maintained on fin?
    I'm on DUT now, I was on in for two years rom 20-22, it slowed my loss but i was still losing ground(very slowly, hard to tell the difference of me now and two years ago, its just a little thinner), not sure if DUT is working yet only been 3 months.

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  • joel203
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    Not if you do the proper thing and take proper steps.

    without taking any medication you will undoubtedly go bald by your mid-20's judging by your pictures.

    but if you start on Minoxidil and Fin right now(if fin doesnt work move on to DUT) you can probably save most of your hair, if not slow the process down a lot.

    I can tell you from my own experience, me and my friend started losing hair at roughly the same age(around 18), I got on meds at 19-20(I was NW2-3) like Fin and minoxidil and while it's slowly shedding it definitely slowed to a near halt after starting on that stuff, while he's a full-blown NW5-6, i'm a NW3, not much worse than i was 3-4 years ago.

    how long have you maintained on fin?

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  • Nigguh
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    Not if you do the proper thing and take proper steps.

    without taking any medication you will undoubtedly go bald by your mid-20's judging by your pictures.

    but if you start on Minoxidil and Fin right now(if fin doesnt work move on to DUT) you can probably save most of your hair, if not slow the process down alot.

    I can tell you from my own experience, me and my friend started losing hair at roughly the same age(around 18), I got on meds at 19-20(I was NW2-3) like Fin and minoxidil and while it's slowly shedding it definitely slowed to a near halt after starting on that stuff, while he's a full-blown NW5-6, i'm a NW3, not much worse than i was 3-4 years ago.
    Thank you for the reply, rdawg. About the medication. I've started going on minoxidil around my temple areas, not the crown and vertex, though, since the hair are currently pretty thick there. I apply it every night before sleeping. I also oil massage my hair and scalp every other day. I don't know about fin, though. What else should I do, according to you?

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