Any hope for teens in the future (story)

[Vunoo]

Hello dear community and sorry to bother you but lately I've been pretty sad with myself/my life, so I wanted to look for some advices from you guys..

I'll make it really short.. I'm a 19 yo boy who's sttrugling with hair loss like many of u, but I just can't stand living my life like I used to. I am no longer the same type of guy near my friends nor near the girls. All because hair loss has been killing me inside. The "funny" and "pretty" guy is no longer on their books, coming to the point where I even get verbally abused without them knowing that they're actually hurting me.

My dad is the only member of my family (both sides) who has a bald patch and he only started balding on his 30's, everytime I talk with them about this topic, they just ignore the situation. And the dermatologist that I went to last year just said that I had "male pattern baldness" by checking my hair density and that was it.

I've been taking finasteride+minoxidil since I was 18 and so far it doesn't look like it did much to help me fighting this hard journey.

So yeah, I'm here to ask you guys if is ther anything else that can bring the smile to my face that I once had, the joy of living and being near people who think that I matter, that I'm present in their lives.

Please try not to say something like "shave it off and be a man" or "embrace your hair loss". If it hasn't worked so far, then it wouldn't now :/

[kantian]

I have been balding since 18 and I refused to take finasteride. Minox gave me swollen eyes, and it's a hassle. Hence, I've chosen to take none of the FDA approved treatments.

I believe we're in a relatively good position though. Within a couple of weeks, we will be able to trial Setipiprant and Bimatoprost. However, this is going to cost a lot of money which your parents may not be willing to support you with. There also isn't any guarantee that these drugs will work, but a biotech firm (Kythera) and Dr. Cotsarelis think Seti has a chance. Bimatoprost has shown decent results (similar to minox), and a large pharma company think it has potential. These drugs will take forever to be approved by the FDA, but we are organizing a group buy to get one or both of these drugs through a research supplier.

Also, women aren't life. Most of the women I meet are completely unremarkable people. As a man, you're born with the right stuff to be a remarkable person--as long as you develop some self confidence.

I personally know balding guys who are 20 - 25 years old who get very attractive women. They tend to be physically fit and have an edge to them. Make sure you get these traits and go do something more important with your life than qualify for a woman's love.

[Illusion]

Things are looking decent for us but nobody can give an accurate prediction. Just hold on to your fin and minox, possibly add RU or setip (when setip becomes available on the grey/black market that is). Btw has fin + minox not stopped or slowed down your hair losseither?

fwiw, I've been thinking about this a lot myself as I'm in the same boat but there's really no use in it... I guess we just have to do with the treatments we have today. When something new comes out we're going to hear it straight away, I can guarantee you that.

[Arashi]

Things are looking decent for us but nobody can give an accurate prediction. Just hold on to your fin and minox, possibly add RU or setip (when setip becomes available on the grey/black market that is). Btw has fin + minox not stopped or slowed down your hair losseither?

fwiw, I've been thinking about this a lot myself as I'm in the same boat but there's really no use in it... I guess we just have to do with the treatments we have today. When something new comes out we're going to hear it straight away, I can guarantee you that.

Every year there's talk here about some new meds or treatments. And it always ends the same: either the treatment has huge side effects or doesn't work at all. So I don't think 'things are looking decent' at all. They look like they looked 5 years ago. And most probably will look in 5 years from now too.

You can live your life, worrying about your hair, thinking you can't have a relationship with a nice looking woman because of your hairloss. Or you could make something of your life, enjoy it and the girls will follow. Just my 2 cents.

[Illusion]

Every year there's talk here about some new meds or treatments. And it always ends the same: either the treatment has huge side effects or doesn't work at all. So I don't think 'things are looking decent' at all. They look like they looked 5 years ago. And most probably will look in 5 years from now too.

You can live your life, worrying about your hair, thinking you can't have a relationship with a nice looking woman because of your hairloss. Or you could make something of your life, enjoy it and the girls will follow. Just my 2 cents.

Fine, I'll rephrase it: "We're further into treating hair loss then we have ever been." Good enough? Don't want to sound like a smartass but if you read my post I do advice to just focus on treatments available right now instead of focussing on all the future treatments that might come out.


I agree with the last part of your post, although this is easier said than done in the beginning.

[Illusion]

Also, in terms of experimental treatments there's quite some movement on this forum (possibly on other forums as well, which I don't know as this is the only forum I frequently visit). People are trying to get setip / OC going for a reasonable price. How does that not look at least slightly decent to you?

[Arashi]

Fine, I'll rephrase it: "We're further into treating hair loss then we have ever been."

But that's always the case at some point in time.

I do advice to just focus on treatments available right now instead of focussing on all the future treatments that might come out.

Agreed there. But the sad fact is that there's not much more than FUE, fina and minox. Which can be helpful to some people, but if you're balding at 19 at a high speed you can forget about FUE if fina+minox cant slow your hairloss down ...

[Arashi]

Also, in terms of experimental treatments there's quite some movement on this forum (possibly on other forums as well, which I don't know as this is the only forum I frequently visit). People are trying to get setip / OC going for a reasonable price. How does that not look at least slightly decent to you?

That's always the case man. Every year there's are tons of new treatments. The majority are always scam products/doctors (they just dont work), then there are some products that work but have huge sides (like RU) and then there are the projects that are just always and always delayed to some point in the future or simply are being stopped. It's always been like that. Not sure why it would be different now.

If there's a product out there, from a solid company, clinically proven to work and which results can be reproduced, THEN I'll get excited ... Until that day, every year is just going to be a repetition of the last one, with new magic hair growth products coming out tomorrow ...

[Illusion]

That's always the case man. Every year there's are tons of new treatments. The majority are always scam products/doctors (they just dont work), then there are some products that work but have huge sides (like RU) and then there are the projects that are just always and always delayed to some point in the future ...

Yeah perhaps. I think the reason why I'm excited abput setip is because RU was also pretty decent (I've been more or less pleased with it) and people are hyping up setip / OC almost like they did with RU. But you're definitely right in that with every new possible treatment, everyone in here jumps straight on it. Oh well, we're just super desperate I'm afraid.

Also, slight derail: why are you saying RU has huge sides? Personal experience? Haven't heard a lot of people reporting massive sides. I take it you hate fin too then?

[Atum]

At least they are finding new things associated with hairloss like PGD2.
If am not mistaken 5 years ago they only thought hairloss was due to genes and DHT.

[Arashi]

Also, slight derail: why are you saying RU has huge sides? Personal experience? Haven't heard a lot of people reporting massive sides. I take it you hate fin too then?

About RU: I heard from several people who had to stop using it due to several sides. Doesn't mean that will happen to everybody of course. If it works for you, then you should be good for a while

[Illusion]

Agreed there. But the sad fact is that there's not much more than FUE, fina and minox. Which can be helpful to some people, but if you're balding at 19 at a high speed you can forget about FUE if fina+minox cant slow your hairloss down ...

It's a sad fact indeed. Like I said in my first post in this thread, I too ask myself this question a lot. Even though I gave OP the advice to not look at future treatments and focus on what is available right now, I'm unable to do that very same thing. You're hitting the nail on the head with this post. I'm 17 and on fin, minox and RU. If this doesn't help me then I'm completely ****ed.

I know I sound as a huge hypocrite but I just try to give the best advice possible to others, I can't do much more unfortunately


Edit: regarding RU & being good for a while, I hope so man

[macbeth81]

FearTheLoss made a good summary of what is in the pipeline.

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?19327-2015-outlook.

There is little hope for the future. A lot of theory but nothing in practice, and the time keeps ticking away.

I remember these forums seven years ago and people thought there would be a cure. Now we are discussing that we might have alternatives to finasteride (setipiprant, cb-03-01) and minoxidil (bimatoprost). Expectations are definitely lower these days.

[Illusion]

Still, the fact that you've been into this whole hair loss stuff for at least 7 years gives me hope that it's possible to delay things big time with current treatments, hopefully enough for future stuff to come out before my hair gets too bad. Efficacy of treatments is very person dependant though ofc.

[Coizi]

That's always the case man. Every year there's are tons of new treatments. The majority are always scam products/doctors (they just dont work), then there are some products that work but have huge sides (like RU) and then there are the projects that are just always and always delayed to some point in the future or simply are being stopped. It's always been like that. Not sure why it would be different now.

If there's a product out there, from a solid company, clinically proven to work and which results can be reproduced, THEN I'll get excited ... Until that day, every year is just going to be a repetition of the last one, with new magic hair growth products coming out tomorrow ...

wanne bet that cb-03-01 is gonne go to the market ?