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  • LongWayHome
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 183

    #16
    Originally posted by Gerhard
    Originally came in to mock it as snake oil, but it honestly doesn't sound like bullhockey. Could be a cool supplemental thing. I might give it a shot.
    Same here, but I like their confidence.
    "We will send you exactly one email: to let you know when and where to get the product when we are ready. It will be soon. No spam, no games"

    I like that.

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    • kaptainjack
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 11

      #17
      Hopefully it'll be available in Europe too.

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      • Gjm127
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 170

        #18
        They're marketing it as a growth stimulant more than a Androgen inhibitor... This has me worried because the science posted by Recidive says the opposite.

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        • Reign
          Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 30

          #19
          Looks like they just updated their website with a FAQ. http://www.hairgrowthsoon.com/#faq

          There is a link with an explanation here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ls05w87bt5...eview.pdf?dl=0

          The second line of that PDF states "The condition is characterized by below normal levels of androgens such as dihydrotestosterone (DHT), testosterone, FSH, and sex hormone binding globulin at the dermal papillae."

          Additionally, there is a diagram with a pathway specifying the function of IGF-1.

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          • Gjm127
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 170

            #20
            Originally posted by Reign
            Looks like they just updated their website with a FAQ. http://www.hairgrowthsoon.com/#faq

            There is a link with an explanation here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ls05w87bt5...eview.pdf?dl=0

            The second line of that PDF states "The condition is characterized by below normal levels of androgens such as dihydrotestosterone (DHT), testosterone, FSH, and sex hormone binding globulin at the dermal papillae."

            Additionally, there is a diagram with a pathway specifying the function of IGF-1.
            On the other hand, it's just a start-up from a biology student...

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            • burtandernie
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1563

              #21
              To me this means there is no requirement they prove it works which usually goes along with snake oil, but as always I am open to evidence showing it works. But until that happens its just snake oil to me until its proven there is a good chance it actually might work

              the FDA classifies us as a cosmetic/natural remedy rather than a drug.

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              • sdsurfin
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 702

                #22
                I wouldn't call it snake oil, it's based on good science, but yeah not much testing yet to get excited about, and there are always wrenches thrown in when it comes to mpb. Who knows if the dose is strong enough to override the self destruct command.

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                • noisette
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 259

                  #23
                  I sent an email to them in order to have some informations. If this product can be a cure. And this is the answer :

                  " Thanks! It isn’t quite a cure, that would take a genetic change, most likely. But it is more effective than rogaine and can regrow hair in balding areas. "

                  and
                  "
                  And please, spread the word to as many people as possible. The more signups, the sooner we can get going! "

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                  • oppenheimer82
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 118

                    #24
                    Originally posted by noisette
                    I sent an email to them in order to have some informations. If this product can be a cure. And this is the answer :

                    " Thanks! It isn’t quite a cure, that would take a genetic change, most likely. But it is more effective than rogaine and can regrow hair in balding areas. "

                    and
                    "
                    And please, spread the word to as many people as possible. The more signups, the sooner we can get going! "
                    more effective than rogaine? where the hell did this treatment come from all of a sudden? i have to admit, the science behind their product is pretty legit

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                    • noisette
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 259

                      #25
                      Originally posted by oppenheimer82
                      more effective than rogaine? where the hell did this treatment come from all of a sudden? i have to admit, the science behind their product is pretty legit
                      + 1 , yes Bro... And the Doctor behind this product is : http://www.prometheonpharma.com/steve.hsu.html

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                      • unbalding
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 140

                        #26
                        Originally posted by oppenheimer82
                        more effective than rogaine? where the hell did this treatment come from all of a sudden? i have to admit, the science behind their product is pretty legit
                        Sure the science behind IGF-1 is legit, but it has to be injected into the scalp. It's going to take a lot to convince me that an OTC topical form of IGF-1 is going to be effective, or even affordable.

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                        • DanWS
                          Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 68

                          #27
                          My impulse was that this would be another snake oil. However, the company and the doctor behind the treatment are definitely legit and I really don't think it would be in businesswire if it was a snake oil. Stephen Hsu, MD, PhD seems to have fantastic credentials. Talk about a bolt out of the blue - that treatment to bridge many of us over for the next few years might have just landed on our lap, out of nowhere.

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                          • sdsurfin
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 702

                            #28
                            Originally posted by unbalding
                            Sure the science behind IGF-1 is legit, but it has to be injected into the scalp. It's going to take a lot to convince me that an OTC topical form of IGF-1 is going to be effective, or even affordable.
                            Well transdermal delivery is what this startup is all about. I have no idea about efficacy but I wouldn't doubt the ability to get it into the scalp or the desire to make it affordable. That's just good business.

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                            • unbalding
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 140

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DanWS
                              My impulse was that this would be another snake oil. However, the company and the doctor behind the treatment are definitely legit and I really don't think it would be in businesswire if it was a snake oil. Stephen Hsu, MD, PhD seems to have fantastic credentials. Talk about a bolt out of the blue - that treatment to bridge many of us over for the next few years might have just landed on our lap, out of nowhere.
                              You do realize that anyone can pay to put out a press release on businesswire for anything, right? Just like running a classified ad.

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                              • unbalding
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 140

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sdsurfin
                                Well transdermal delivery is what this startup is all about. I have no idea about efficacy but I wouldn't doubt the ability to get it into the scalp or the desire to make it affordable. That's just good business.
                                It seems we won't have to wait long to find out at least. I will wait and see if others have success before I try it. I'm not too keen on putting something that promotes cancer growth on the same spot where I'm already putting unproven chemicals.

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