follicept - what's this?

[Mehdi]

What will be the exact dosage of IGF-1 in the Follicept treatment ? The IGF signaling pathway is implicated in some cancers so we should be careful about it. Also the sometomedin is basically known to promote cell and hormons growth, like isn't there any risk to see some irregular development of the bones or some other parts of the body?

[tom12345]

I will reiterate: we are not a scam. We are not selling anything. We have a theory we will begin testing on Monday. We may well be wrong. If so, we will not sell. About my buzzcut- you are clearly very skeptical, as you should be. If you are so convinced it won't work, would you get a buzz cut? I am not sure either, and am pretty hesitant to get one, even though the rewards could be huge if it works. However, the rewards will only be huge if it works really well. Like well enough to see even without a buzz cut for example

Yes, I did get a buzzcut before trying Minoxidil, so I would. Both to photograph and look for results, and to ensure product wasn't wasted on the hair instead of scalp. Heck, even the provokative columnist Katie Hopkins put vanity aside and put on 45 lbs of weight so she could lose it again to prove her point which is that fat people are just lazy. In case you do not get a buzzcut, please post weekly updates of also somebody with short hair and more severe balding. While you're saying "if it works well, it'll be visible on my longer hair", there might be indicators much more visible on those with less hair that says maybe it's working but needs some adjustments.

[breakbot]

This is a rat, not a human being

This is all the fight story about, Noisette.

[noquierosercalvo]

oh that is what i thought, thanks.

[noisette]

If they said that its not already tested on humans yet, how is possible there are pics of hair grown advance result of their web site ?

that one:

http://res.cloudinary.com/hrscywv4p/image/upload/c_limit,f_auto,h_900,q_80,w_1200/v1/183547/20150223_rat_pics_for_website_follicept_hvhpt5.png

sorry my english, thanks

This is a rat, not a human being

[noquierosercalvo]

If they said that its not already tested on humans yet, how is possible there are pics of hair grown advance result of their web site ?

that one:

http://res.cloudinary.com/hrscywv4p/image/upload/c_limit,f_auto,h_900,q_80,w_1200/v1/183547/20150223_rat_pics_for_website_follicept_hvhpt5.png

sorry my english, thanks

[Keki]

Guys i think we should focus on the rat picture for once, if we compare the 10ppm and the minox one they are similar in term of cosmetic results, let's pretend it work exactly the same in human, we have the same minox regrowth, slightly better or worse.
We know two fact, when minox works WELL, give us 2-3 years of hairs back, which is basically a 1.5 nw back, if it doesn't work well people continue to use it being afraid of a minox shedding, so it's a deal with the devil but without a 100% success rate. So even if slightly worse people should use follicept, at least they will cure themself only few days in a year.
At the same time we know we can use propecia, and that for sure will fight the hairloss cutting the dht, the real question now is why in their theory they think cutting the dht is not necessary anymore? They think the only reason why dht kills the follicle is the igf-1 decrease or what? I wonder if a combo propecia+follicept is more effective, pretending a working follicept next month

[TravisB]

Why does this thread have 180 pages?

Is there any proof that it might work on humans, other than the rat pictures?

This is a serious question, I don't want to read through 180 pages :P

If there is something significant, please direct me to the page, thanks.

[snowie]

is there a date on the release of follicept, or will we soon get one ? ( sorry for my bad english )

[nameless]

The fact that you and Swooping even attempt to argue that Follicept and Histogen are equatable, simply based on the fact that they share ONE similar ingredient is quite alarming, particularly considering the intelligence Swooping portrays himself to have. You cannot derive any logical conclusion whatsoever based on the fact that two products share a similar ingredient. Just because pizza is not healthy for me, does that mean tomatoes are not healthy either? truly unbelievable

Stayhopeful, It's not like Follicept shares one ingredient with Histogen and then Follicept also has other ingredients. That one ingredient that Follicept share with Histogen is the ONLY ingredient that Follicept has.

[stayhopeful]

I would not compare Arishi's arguments to Swoopings. Swoopings positions are well thought out and his concerns are more logical and scientific.

For example, Swooping says that Histogen has IGF-1 and Histogen isn't growing a lot of hair. Are you saying that this argument by Swooping isn't sound? I think it's sound. Histogen is not growing a ton of hair and they are injecting IGF-1, along with a lot of other growth factors and proteins.

Then Arishi will come along and say, Follicept is an intentional scam and the company is a big fraud because they won't have the bald truth posters be the test subjects. And the ONLY possible reason for the company not to let the bald truth posters be the test subjects is so that the company can pull a scam. There is no other possible reason. These kinds of statements are ludicrous. Arishi is not giving the company the chance to make the right decision or the wrong decision. First you prove efficacy or otherwise then you see what the company does. It's too early to call the company a scam.

The fact that you and Swooping even attempt to argue that Follicept and Histogen are equatable, simply based on the fact that they share ONE similar ingredient is quite alarming, particularly considering the intelligence Swooping portrays himself to have. You cannot derive any logical conclusion whatsoever based on the fact that two products share a similar ingredient. Just because pizza is not healthy for me, does that mean tomatoes are not healthy either? truly unbelievable

[Arashi]

I would not compare Arishi's arguments to Swoopings. Swoopings positions are well thought out and his concerns are more logical and scientific.

For example, Swooping says that Histogen has IGF-1 and Histogen isn't growing a lot of hair. Are you saying that this argument by Swooping isn't sound? I think it's sound. Histogen is not growing a ton of hair and they are injecting IGF-1, along with a lot of other growth factors and proteins.

Then Arishi will come along and say, Follicept is an intentional scam and the company is a big fraud because they won't have the bald truth posters be the test subjects. And the ONLY possible reason for the company not to let the bald truth posters be the test subjects is so that the company can pull a scam. There is no other possible reason. These kinds of statements are ludicrous. Arishi is not giving the company the chance to make the right decision or the wrong decision. First you prove efficacy or otherwise then you see what the company does. It's too early to call the company a scam.

So can swooping consider this post as a compliment ? Just trying to figure out your post. Thanks jarjar!

[Arashi]

cough arashi cough swooping

Thanks for the compliment, we are both Dutch though. Thanks anyway, appreciate it.

[nameless]

[QUOTE=serenemoon;205656]

It is only one time injection with histogen though...not 12 doses in one month. Fingers crossed that the multiple doses help!!!

Very good point.

But do keep in mind that even though Follicept is applied a lot more often than Histogen, Follicept is just one growth factor whereas Histogen is many growth factors. Doesn't that mean that in order for Follicept to grow a good amount of hair IGF-1 would have to be THE KEY growth factor in hair loss, and if that were the case doesn't it seems like we would have been hearing a lot more about IGF-1 than we have heard about it over the years?

[serenemoon]

[QUOTE=BoSox;205654]

Histogen has IGF-1 and Histogen isn't growing a lot of hair

Well, f***

It is only one time injection with histogen though...not 12 doses in one month. Fingers crossed that the multiple doses help!!!