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  • sdsurfin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 713

    #31
    Swooping that is all speculative, and honestly maybe it's not a holy grail, but cotsarellis did find a pharmacparner did his research very quickly and sold them the rights to all their research. These guys know things we don't know, and I can't find any reason this wouldn't maintain as well as fin. And many of us don't want to use anti androgens. So please stop bringing this down when you have really no good reason not to and very reputable people are investing in it. Any online posters have reported a stoppage in shedding on all kinds if pgd2 blockers, even Zyrtec which biscuits different receptor. Anything that can ride me over safely for a few years is golden in my book. The guy at the pharmacy is willing to work with us on SM and Bim too.

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    • sdsurfin
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 713

      #32
      Originally posted by sdsurfin
      Swooping that is all speculative, and honestly maybe it's not a holy grail, but cotsarellis did find a pharmacparner did his research very quickly and sold them the rights to all their research. These guys know things we don't know, and I can't find any reason this wouldn't maintain as well as fin. And many of us don't want to use anti androgens. So please stop bringing this down when you have really no good reason not to and very reputable people are investing in it. Any online posters have reported a stoppage in shedding on all kinds if pgd2 blockers, even Zyrtec which biscuits different receptor. Anything that can ride me over safely for a few years is golden in my book. The guy at the pharmacy is willing to work with us on SM and Bim too.
      Ps forgive the typos I'm on a phone.

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      • sdsurfin
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 713

        #33
        Fine, you fools can all keep burning your nuts and your brains off while there is very possibly much better option out there. I think a combo of a blocker and Bim will definitely do a lot of good, and I would appreciate the support needed to make that happen. If all you want to do is use finasterude then just keep your mouth shut. Unless you have solid scientific evidence that cotsarellis and kythera are wrong about pursuing this.

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        • FeelsBad
          Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 43

          #34
          No need for that, sdsurfin. I am with you and I will totally try OC/Setipiprant if the price comes down a little. I appreciate you putting in time on this.

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          • nave13579
            Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 34

            #35
            Just got this email from Anagen:

            "dear friend,

            Our Head Manufacture kane in china is still on holiday. back at 27-2.

            re setipiprant, once they're back.

            1). they'll check if this chemical is patented in china.
            2). they'll check if chemical is licensed by any drug distributor.
            3). As if its licensed they'll,contact the company for agreement to produce and sell this research chemical strictly as for research purpose not for human use.in small quantities. there is no guarantee for grand production right at high quantity if drugs is licensed already.
            4). price for small scale production for research purpose only. won't be economical.


            as for OC000459, oc000459-ethanol and TM , both very selective CRTH2 antagonists, please tell them the quantity you're interested in, they'll give a great discount for volume deal. We have both products are in stock.
            You can arrange a group buy if there is interest. please let me know the total quantity."

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            • Jasari
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 252

              #36
              OC is around 220 on Kane's site for 1 gram. What is the mixing & storage procedure & how long does this last?

              A one month treatment is far from economical.

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              • HairlossAt15
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 93

                #37
                Best option is to wait for the poc trial to be completed with Kythera. Then we will have concrete data on humans seeing how effective gpr44 blockers really are. Will also know correct dosage, safety and health risks etc

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  #38
                  Originally posted by HairlossAt15
                  Best option is to wait for the poc trial to be completed with Kythera. Then we will have concrete data on humans seeing how effective gpr44 blockers really are.
                  You'll be waiting 2 years for that.

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                  • JDW
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 108

                    #39
                    Originally posted by HairlossAt15
                    Best option is to wait for the poc trial to be completed with Kythera. Then we will have concrete data on humans seeing how effective gpr44 blockers really are. Will also know correct dosage, safety and health risks etc
                    When is this set to be completed? thanks

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                    • Illusion
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 500

                      #40
                      Originally posted by nave13579
                      Just got this email from Anagen:

                      "dear friend,

                      Our Head Manufacture kane in china is still on holiday. back at 27-2.

                      re setipiprant, once they're back.

                      1). they'll check if this chemical is patented in china.
                      2). they'll check if chemical is licensed by any drug distributor.
                      3). As if its licensed they'll,contact the company for agreement to produce and sell this research chemical strictly as for research purpose not for human use.in small quantities. there is no guarantee for grand production right at high quantity if drugs is licensed already.
                      4). price for small scale production for research purpose only. won't be economical.


                      as for OC000459, oc000459-ethanol and TM , both very selective CRTH2 antagonists, please tell them the quantity you're interested in, they'll give a great discount for volume deal. We have both products are in stock.
                      You can arrange a group buy if there is interest. please let me know the total quantity."

                      Also sent a mail to Kane re: OC and sep and got exactly the same reply as the one quoted above.

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                      • Hairismylife
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 383

                        #41
                        Swooping why are you keep posting negative comments on Pgd2 when their is solid science behind? Seems you only support RU but RU should only be a bridge of time considering it's safety profile. I would definitely lower my RU dosage to 2% if I get OC.
                        Plus, we are seeking regrowth treatment and Bim seems able to do something. Most of us would be happy if itcdan bring us back 1 norwood.

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1589

                          #42
                          Originally posted by HairlossAt15
                          Best option is to wait for the poc trial to be completed with Kythera. Then we will have concrete data on humans seeing how effective gpr44 blockers really are. Will also know correct dosage, safety and health risks etc
                          Because we won't know results until 2018. Furthermore, it's backed by cots work and doesnt have a dangerous side effect profile

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                          • sdsurfin
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 713

                            #43
                            Best bet is to work with the other guy and not cane. He cut the price to a tenth of what kane advertised. Only question left is to figure out which compound makes the most sense. That TM drug is looking pretty good if it dissolves in water. Maybe trade off one day on that topically and one day on setipip orally. I have high hopes.

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1589

                              #44
                              Originally posted by sdsurfin
                              Best bet is to work with the other guy and not cane. He cut the price to a tenth of what kane advertised. Only question left is to figure out which compound makes the most sense. That TM drug is looking pretty good if it dissolves in water. Maybe trade off one day on that topically and one day on setipip orally. I have high hopes.
                              He cut OC to a tenth? $27 a gram? What did he say about setipiprant

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                              • sdsurfin
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 713

                                #45
                                sorry he hasn't priced OC yet. he priced setipiprant at 300 for 15 grams. my mistake. but OC will prob be similar or cheaper because it is not licensed in the US.

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