Do you think there will be a cure by 2025?

[sdsurfin]

We already have very good evidence that hair engineering is a looming reality. Prob still twenty years out max, but that's still pretty nuts.

[Trouse5858]

If you believe what many informed and respected scientists tell you, we are on the cusp of a major boom in technological advancement. Currently, this advancement seems limited to computing capabilities; Moore's Law has been accurate in that computer processing capabilities double roughly every other year. This is of course different from technology itself advancing at an exponential rate.

By and large, we are experiencing a relative lull in terms of advancement. If you look at the decade or so since the first iPhone was released, it has only really changed with regards to the features mentioned above. More RAM, more pixels for the camera, less bulk/ more aerodynamics due to less space needed for greater data processing. But even the iPhone 5 looks and operates in a very similar fashion to its' original predecessor. This is nothing compared to the Internet boom from the late 80's to the early/ mid 2000's that revolutionized business strategy and people's daily lives more than anyone could have anticipated.

Of course, bio-tech is more difficult in that the inner workings of the human body are much more intricate and complex than even the world's best computers. There's still quite a bit we don't know, especially about the human brain. I'd expect though, that a couple of massive discoveries will completely alter the picture in the next decade and this question will be laughable. The fact that we're decades into hair loss research and still no drug has been specifically designed and released for this purpose have come to market skew people's opinions; you need to remember that prior performance is not an indicator of future progress. Optimistic thinkers believe that we will be on the verge of artificial super-intelligence in less than 50 years. That is, a computer that has the processing capabilities 1 million times greater than an average person's, with the added ability to interpret emotions and recognize facial expressions - better than human beings. It sounds ridiculous now, but again, that's because progress has been relatively stagnant over the last 10 years. There's no doubt in my mind that every single person on this forum will live to see what basically amounts to a "cure" in the next decade or two; obviously that's still bad news for most people frequenting this board though.

[KO1]

Let's give SM time, I think we need min 6mos trial. Remember, VPA gives some growth, and this is more potent.

Finally, I suspect SM will really be useful in combo with other drugs. Seti+SM+pge2 could be interesting.

[Swooping]

"The trial has been completed but no results have been announced, although I heard that the trial didn’t meet its objective efficacy endpt of hair regrowth, but that pts reported a subjective improvement that the company was touting."

http://www.ipscell.com/2014/10/stem-cells-for-baldness-hope-versus-hype-for-hair/#comment-29509

"The doctor is extremely encouraged by the potential of this treatment, although the clinical research nurse with whom I spoke said she hasn't witnessed much growth in the patients she has seen thus far."

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?15455-Sm04554&p=195959&viewfull=1#post195959

That is all the feedback I have seen on SM04554 and so far all negative. We will have to see if they release Phase II results, otherwise if they launch a Phase III in a few years I suppose that would be an implicit statement it works to a degree.

Thanks good information! Maybe one day a miracle will happen, just as minoxidil which miraculously grew hair like a beast. It still reigns king for over 30 years as a hair growth stimulant.

[macbeth81]

why do you say SM rumors are negative?

"The trial has been completed but no results have been announced, although I heard that the trial didn’t meet its objective efficacy endpt of hair regrowth, but that pts reported a subjective improvement that the company was touting."

http://www.ipscell.com/2014/10/stem-cells-for-baldness-hope-versus-hype-for-hair/#comment-29509

"The doctor is extremely encouraged by the potential of this treatment, although the clinical research nurse with whom I spoke said she hasn't witnessed much growth in the patients she has seen thus far."

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?15455-Sm04554&p=195959&viewfull=1#post195959

That is all the feedback I have seen on SM04554 and so far all negative. We will have to see if they release Phase II results, otherwise if they launch a Phase III in a few years I suppose that would be an implicit statement it works to a degree.

[sdsurfin]

why do you say SM rumors are negative?

[Hairismylife]

Cure by 2025? We will be lucky to have a more effective treatment.

The initial trials for Bimatoprost and RepliCel yielded poor results. SM04554 is unknown, rumors are negative. Histogen have been digging themselves out of a hole. Pilofocus is delay after delay. Setipiprant and CB-03-01 may be an alternative Finasteride. This DP cell cloning has been failure after failure.

Basically a lot of theory and nothing in practice.

Even if a cure is found by 2025, it will take years to clear the red tape.

Our youth is lost and by then we will be old men anyway.

Sadly our best chance is falling head first in a fire and see if you get lucky like that one old man.

Too negative.

[macbeth81]

Cure by 2025? We will be lucky to have a more effective treatment.

The initial trials for Bimatoprost and RepliCel yielded poor results. SM04554 is unknown, rumors are negative. Histogen have been digging themselves out of a hole. Pilofocus is delay after delay. Setipiprant and CB-03-01 may be an alternative Finasteride. This DP cell cloning has been failure after failure.

Basically a lot of theory and nothing in practice.

Even if a cure is found by 2025, it will take years to clear the red tape.

Our youth is lost and by then we will be old men anyway.

Sadly our best chance is falling head first in a fire and see if you get lucky like that one old man.

[iamanidiot]

Since Replicel product RCH-01 is based on research that was released in 2003. i think there will be a cure in 2025 but, only if by the end of this year, we'll able to get a full functionality dermal papilla cell (through the normal cloning process, adult stem cell, or maybe ips).
I think that a cure will stay 10 years away until we can get those cell.

[Conpecia]

i think you'll be able to have a full head of hair in 2025. i don't think male pattern baldness will be cured by 2025.

[Marcher]

It's possible there will be a cure but I doubt it. Depends on how you define cure. I guess if you can inoculate yourself from balding that is in effect a cure. Cell based therapies will eventually pan out but it will take time to figure out all of the mechanics in the precise order. The likely outcome is that people with the least amount of hair loss will benefit first from any kind of treatment. The balder the person the more complications. For hair loss suffers time is a cruel mistress. As time passes the more a radical treatment becomes necessary.


BTW, not new I just lost my old account. I'm not a spammer.

[Bald Russian]

So what do you think?

I think there will be nothing. Anyway i'm 27 now im starting to not care about my bald scalp, i think after 30 i will absolutely not care.
On this weekend i visited meeting of my university mates, all males were bald and nobody care. Smart people dont do any accent on baldness, i know that's bad consolation... Sitting here you will waste your life for nothing, i tired from regimes and all this chemistry, feel myself like i have a cancer...

[hosney7]

I think cure can be comming much sooner than we expect
9th wchr seems very impressive especially its title rejuvenate, regenerate

https://www.hair2015.org/

Also one of the congress leader is Christiano the real guy

[horte]

I mean he wasn't really asking WILL THERE BE A CURE because everyone knows that is unanswerable. he is asking what do YOU think. That being said I think there will be 10 years is so long and medical advances will be huge. (I understand that statement can hold true for any year/decade) I also think at least for me a thing to look forward to is the advances in HT. I am 19 and about a NW1.5 and holding my hairline with propecia. Ideally at 22 after graduating I get evaluate my hair loss and get a HT with no scarring and great results.

[Parsia]

Dont waste ur life waiting for bullshit.. i promise you, when theres a treament out in the market, you'll hear about it in the news..
Right now, they're doing phase 3 clinical trials, trying both topically and orally a unique extract of "shit" to grow some hair..I belive they're 5 months far from release..

Yes , I agree , But 5 months or 5 years? I think you mean 5 years right?