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  • inbrugge
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 244

    Oral Fin necessary if on Topical Fin

    I'm on and off on a minoxidil solution that has some topical fin in it (Susan's mix). I had stopped due to side effects, but my hairline is diminishing QUICK! and it seems that I have no choice but to give this another try.

    So the question is, if I'm on topical fin, should I also pursue oral fin in combo, or is that overkill/unnecessary. It seems that whatever I put on my head goes systematic anyways, so it appears that oral fin in that case would be excessive. But I want to know what you guys' opinions are.
  • lilpauly
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1084

    #2
    Studies have shown topical fin works. I think it's overkill perhaps . U need Minox and dht blocker in any regimen

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    • blondetooth
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 159

      #3
      Minoxidil only works for maybe 2 years, then you slowly go back to baseline. There is a graph around here somewhere. It produces temporary fake hair growth and has the nastiest side effects of any of the popular regimens.

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      • blondetooth
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 159

        #4
        For topical fin cant we just crush up a pill in some water and rub it on out head?

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        • Jazz1
          Inactive
          • Aug 2012
          • 1598

          #5
          Bro your case stick with low dosage topical FIN, leave oral FIN as last bullet when your body adjusts. Oral FIN will give you sides as you are sensitive, topical FIN will give you some sides but much less where your able to carry on.

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          • lilpauly
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 1084

            #6
            if u are getting sides make sure u keep minox in your regimen. if u are getting sides with topical fin then oral fin will be worse

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            • blondetooth
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 159

              #7
              Originally posted by blondetooth
              For topical fin cant we just crush up a pill in some water and rub it on out head?
              this is what im doing. except:

              mix it in a little bowl or cap.
              i use a Dutasteride pill, its 100x stronger than fin. fin is fine, better to use a 5mg pill so it has less fillers.
              use a few grams of pure caffiene power
              use some vit c powder or serum (i dont have any yet)
              Then some coconut oil, or castor oil
              Then I was thinking about adding some alcohol or vinegar to make it stronger? I need input from a scientist.

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              • lilpauly
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1084

                #8
                Originally posted by blondetooth
                this is what im doing. except:

                mix it in a little bowl or cap.
                i use a Dutasteride pill, its 100x stronger than fin. fin is fine, better to use a 5mg pill so it has less fillers.
                use a few grams of pure caffiene power
                use some vit c powder or serum (i dont have any yet)
                Then some coconut oil, or castor oil
                Then I was thinking about adding some alcohol or vinegar to make it stronger? I need input from a scientist.
                use ethanol and pg .

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                • cthulhu2
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 71

                  #9
                  There is zero evidence that topical finasteride is more effective than oral finasteride. There have been studies on this as well just search pubmed.

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                  • blondetooth
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 159

                    #10
                    Of course. Topical fin has a worse bioavail ility and you need to use more to get the same dose. Oral fin doesn't waste anything

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                    • lilpauly
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1084

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blondetooth
                      Of course. Topical fin has a worse bioavail ility and you need to use more to get the same dose. Oral fin doesn't waste anything
                      hi man why don't u buy liquid dut ?

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                      • blondetooth
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 159

                        #12
                        Yoy buy Dut capsules and break them up or dissolve then into a little water
                        Use enough ingredients 2to last a few more times.try to estimate consistent doses.point five to three quarter of a pill seems good enough for one application. So maybe use 2-3 pills. keep the extra in an airtight bottle and don't let it dry out before next time use it in a few days.

                        Now: use the small container so product doesn't spread itself then and go to waste. First add some vitamin C powder, caffeine powderand crushed biotin if possible. then add some Everclear alcohol did give it a little kick and may be absorbed better. Any thoughts on this?

                        what is left is a white paste that can be put on at night. It will have all night to absorb and work its magic. Dutasterideis very potent and caffeine is a proven growth stimulator along with the other things.especially after a light dermaroll using this magic pastehow could it not work?

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                        • lilpauly
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1084

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blondetooth
                          Yoy buy Dut capsules and break them up or dissolve then into a little water
                          Use enough ingredients 2to last a few more times.try to estimate consistent doses.point five to three quarter of a pill seems good enough..

                          Now: use the small container solo product gets excessively wasted. First add some vitamin C powder caffeine powderand crushed biotin if possible. then add some Everclear alcohol did give it a little kick and may be absorbed better. Any thoughts on this?
                          yes man I would drop the water and go with erhanol and a little pg

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                          • blondetooth
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 159

                            #14
                            Thanks I made some updates. I have not even made this yet. I am still waiting on. Ingredients I must say it looks fun though right?! I am especially excited about the dutasteride being applied localy at crappy DHT follicles.

                            the second thing that is exciting is the caffeine, I bought some pharmaceutical grade 100 grams 4 $10.then the vitamin C is something that all kind of makes it healthy and maybe absorb better. Then Everclear seems like it'll help everything penetrate the scalp and make it burn a little.

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                            • Justinian
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 148

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cthulhu2
                              There is zero evidence that topical finasteride is more effective than oral finasteride. There have been studies on this as well just search pubmed.
                              I don't know of anybody saying that it is more effective, but people are just hoping it is close to as effective with minimal side effects/ hormonal changes.

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