Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

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  • Gjm127
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    Originally posted by lilpauly
    We will know the results soon enough ! I have high hopes for it . It will be the most powerful growth stim .
    this combined with CB (and niz) should be the new big 3. Comparable mechanism to Minox-Fin but much more effective duo.

    Just a thought, imagine using minox, fin, cb and bim lol... I'm sure lilpauly would do it!

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  • It's2014ComeOnAlready
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    Originally posted by inbrugge
    Thanks, I thought PGE was hair growth and PGD was stopping hair growth. How are they related.
    PGE and PGF2 work in a similar fashion. You are correct about PGD2

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  • inbrugge
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    Originally posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready
    It's a PGF2 analog, it increases the rate of hair growth.
    Thanks, I thought PGE was hair growth and PGD was stopping hair growth. How are they related.

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  • It's2014ComeOnAlready
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    Originally posted by inbrugge
    what's the working mechanism of BIM.
    It's a PGF2 analog, it increases the rate of hair growth.

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  • inbrugge
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    what's the working mechanism of BIM.

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  • lilpauly
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    We will know the results soon enough ! I have high hopes for it . It will be the most powerful growth stim .

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  • It's2014ComeOnAlready
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    Originally posted by beetee
    No, same deal. There is a Phase 2b trial that is wrapping up now and hopefully we would hear the results of that trial soon. The CEO of the company had said a year and a half ago that it would probably be released in 2019-2020, but some members on here made up their own release dates.
    Dude, you're speculating just as much on here. The results will be posted next month, as they said. If the results are excellent, then you're saying a phase 3 and to market would take 5 years? OK.

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  • beetee
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    Originally posted by Jasari
    In 2006 there was a range of products around 2-3 years away from being released [Which ultimately fizzled out] & that trend seems to have continued as long as I've been on these forums.

    Is there any estimated release date on BIM? Or are we still only working with hypothetical release dates?
    No, same deal. There is a Phase 2b trial that is wrapping up now and hopefully we would hear the results of that trial soon. The CEO of the company had said a year and a half ago that it would probably be released in 2019-2020, but some members on here made up their own release dates.

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  • Jasari
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    In 2006 there was a range of products around 2-3 years away from being released [Which ultimately fizzled out] & that trend seems to have continued as long as I've been on these forums.

    Is there any estimated release date on BIM? Or are we still only working with hypothetical release dates?

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  • beetee
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    Originally posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready
    Does anyone know if/why this would work well for diffuse thinners?
    No one even knows if this will work yet. The whole "Minoxidil on steroids" thing is something developed by people on these forums, not by the company or any actual hair researchers. Minoxidil is supposed to stop one from losing hair. Bimatoprost is supposed to change the qualities of the hair that is already growing.

    The general idea is that if it worked at a minimum it would make existing hairs thicker, longer, and darker. So if diffuse thinners still had a lot of small hairs, then if it worked it would kind of bring these back to some extent. If the hair follicles between the ones that are more or less normal stopped growing almost completely a long time ago, then it would probably be less effective. This is the thinking expressed by the company and the researchers in charge of the project. But again, we do not know yet if it will work at all. There is also the possibility that it could generate new follicles (see this article: http://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-96.../abstract?cc=y).

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  • lilpauly
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    Yes it will. It will be like Minox on steroids

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  • It's2014ComeOnAlready
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    Does anyone know if/why this would work well for diffuse thinners?

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  • FearTheLoss
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Latanoprost works better and is cheaper.
    Where are you getting this information from?

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by unbalding
    I'd love to get this stuff, but why is it so expensive? It would cost a fortune to use this at 10%. I am getting twelve bottles of the .03% stuff, and I'll try that for a couple months and see if it does anything. I'll wait for the trial results before I spring for a gram of this stuff. If a few people want to do a group buy I would join, but I'm not spending over $800 on something which may not do anything.
    Will get cheaper when it's mass produced.

    that .03% stuff for eyelashes is not supposed to be used all the time, which is why at it's cheapest you can get it for 10-15 bucks a bottle which lasts you about 5 days for your hair!

    How much did minoxidil cost when it first came out? I'd imagine BIM if mass produced will cost around 100$ for a few months supply.

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  • unbalding
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Latanoprost works better and is cheaper.
    I found generic latanoprost for 4.13/ml, and bimatoprost for 4.16/ml, so roughly the same price. Latanaprost is a much lower concentration though, .005% vs .03% bimatoprost.

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