Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

[Hairismylife]

I wonder how we would use it in conjunction with Minox... Also, for the first time ever, we might have a hair loss treatment that's not meant for continuous use (for lasting results...). I wonder how that would work.

I dont think its a one-time treatment.

[rdawg]

About the grey market Bim from Kane... I was wondering, the price of RU also dropped significantly in the last 2-3 years right? Could the same scenario be likely to happen for Bim? As others have said, if Bim proves to be superior to minox I really want to start using it but the price is definitely a problem for me (student life ftw)

well yes inevitably if it starts getting mass produced it will get cheaper.

but this is all pure speculation! I'm anxiously waiting for the results of this trial, good or bad and I really hope they dont take extra months to release them like they did with IIa

[Illusion]

well yes inevitably if it starts getting mass produced it will get cheaper.

Yeah obv but I was talking about the time span in which this would happen, not so much whether this was going to happen or not. But yeah, let's wait for the results first *fingers crossed*

[Jasari]

Hypothetically if BIM releases good results this month are we going to have some black-market source to purchase a 5% version of the solution?

[charlie76761]

Re Bim 5% - would love to say yes, but highly doubt we'd have a economical source. Kane is around $800+ a gram so for 5g for 100 days at 5% / 50 mg ED, so you're looking at a lot!


We could probably get a fair reduction if we had a 500g / kg group buy but still be miles off RU let along minox (50 bucks for 25g)

Commercial manufacturers will be able to get it down as will be producing for a mass global market however our volume (those on these forums would be a miniscule fraction of that). Over time I think it could fall nicely, but not for a while.

[charlie76761]

Further thought - % absorption into scalp is known to be low via standard application - you can probably improve a material % through always applying to wet scalp and/ or use of DMI etc

All helps

[Jonathan]

Hypothetically if BIM releases good results this month are we going to have some black-market source to purchase a 5% version of the solution?

That's why I am afraid that they will not show their results. Have they at all said that they will go public with their results?

[unbalding]

That's why I am afraid that they will not show their results. Have they at all said that they will go public with their results?

I don't think they did, and after looking at their previous studies it looks like we can't expect results for a couple years. I hope they break from tradition with this one. This stuff is far too expensive to try at higher concentrations without knowing the optimal dosage.

[Hairismylife]

I don't think they did, and after looking at their previous studies it looks like we can't expect results for a couple years. I hope they break from tradition with this one. This stuff is far too expensive to try at higher concentrations without knowing the optimal dosage.

What means by "cant expect result for a couple of years" ?

[unbalding]

What means by "cant expect result for a couple of years" ?

On previous studies they didn't release the results for more than a year after the study was completed. Perhaps having good results this time, if the rumor is true, will make them want to announce the results sooner.

[Hairismylife]

On previous studies they didn't release the results for more than a year after the study was completed. Perhaps having good results this time, if the rumor is true, will make them want to announce the results sooner.

I am afraid black market will discourage them to commercialize the product unless they patent Bim. I will try Bim no matter what result they get but i need a price down.

[sdsurfin]

I wouldn't count on results being out anytime soon. These things usually are not posted right away. Would be cool if someone had some inside information. I wonder where Spencer heard about the trials. His shows are never informative in any way about anything significant. How many times can you talk about propecia and hair transplants and how shitty it is to go bald. Dumb.

[Jasari]

Re Bim 5% - would love to say yes, but highly doubt we'd have a economical source. Kane is around $800+ a gram so for 5g for 100 days at 5% / 50 mg ED, so you're looking at a lot!


We could probably get a fair reduction if we had a 500g / kg group buy but still be miles off RU let along minox (50 bucks for 25g)

Commercial manufacturers will be able to get it down as will be producing for a mass global market however our volume (those on these forums would be a miniscule fraction of that). Over time I think it could fall nicely, but not for a while.

Yeah it's very expensive. If the results were good I'd probably be able to swing enough for 100 days worth of a 2% solution but 5% at that price is just impractical.

[Hairismylife]

We know the right vehicle?

[beetee]

I wouldn't count on results being out anytime soon. These things usually are not posted right away. Would be cool if someone had some inside information. I wonder where Spencer heard about the trials. His shows are never informative in any way about anything significant. How many times can you talk about propecia and hair transplants and how shitty it is to go bald. Dumb.

This is true. When Allergan first thought they would get positive results with Bimatoprost for hair they planned on releasing the results at a to-be-determined medical conference, which would have been months after completing the trial. For all I know they may release the results tomorrow, but I wouldn't count on it.

Also true, Spencer has often hyped things up (Follica) and stated that something was X amount of months/years off, but those time periods came and went with nothing. Meanwhile some of the usual suspects get their hopes (and their defenses) way up. That doesn't seem like a positive result to me.