Potential "topical by design" low systemic technology to halt hair loss

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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    #16
    We need spencer or a well respected doc to jump on this. I can't believe this isn't a bigger deal to them. It could change the hair loss industry NOW.

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    • sdsurfin
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 702

      #17
      I don't think it could be made Now, because they are still formulating their product (don't have anything on the market yet even for the drugs they are dealing with). HOWEVER, this I think is actually very big. Because if it is doable, then someone else can do it. Spencer should definitely be all over this, I'm sure even he is scared of propecia sides, and a low systemic cut would make this issue go away for many of us. It would also give people getting a transplant security that they won't have to lose more hair or deal with sides.

      I think every person on this forum should be bugging the shit out of their HT docs about this, emailing creabilis (if they get enough emails consistently they are bound to say something), and whoever lives in the EU should be banging on their door and telephoning them for advice. If they aren't willing to delve into hairloss (which would be surprising considering they are looking for deem solutions) then maybe they have ideas on how to achieve the same thing at another lab.

      All the CB and replicel stuff is marginal compared to this. Those are untested as of yet and too expensive. this could be a near term solution that is better than either, and could really make for more money and less morally ambiguous business for HT docs. I'm in the US and have not gotten a response, but please anyone on here with the wherewithal to connect to the company or to people like spencer, get on it!!

      Lastly, I think that whoever has a prescription for fin and is getting sides should try to get a topical formulation made and see if it works. Any compounding pharmacy can make it and hasson and wong have had success reducing sides. they have not used chitosan, which is what this study used, and which is supposed to reduce sides even more by keeping the solution on the skin. Here is the recipe:


      1) Finasteride 0.25%

      2) Ethyl Alcohol 96° 55.00%

      3) Propylene Glycol 5.00%

      4) Hydroxypropyl Chitosan 1.00%

      5) Purified water 38.75%

      Someone get a pharmacy on this and tell us how it goes!

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      • lupero83
        Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 36

        #18
        Someone got no answer from the company ?

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        • rambo007
          Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 43

          #19
          Can we do something about it?

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          • Kudu
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 206

            #20
            Originally posted by rambo007
            Can we do something about it?
            Well you're a secret agent and a special forces Vietnam vet so maybe you can...

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            • JDW
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 105

              #21
              Originally posted by Kudu
              Well you're a secret agent and a special forces Vietnam vet so maybe you can...
              Last thing we need is him parachuting in there and slaughtering the lot of them

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              • burtandernie
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1563

                #22
                I dont know someone with resources has to take this stuff and actually do something with it. There has to be some reliable safe place to buy the finished product that you just use. All this stuff gets overly complicated and I am not playing chemist in my basement for hours a day mixing different batches of chemicals for MPB its just too much hassle. Someone needs to combine all this crap into a product in the US that is reliable and proven to work. Until then so much of this is just theory and too much work for the possible results for me at least.
                I guess I just wait a few years for CB or try fin soon. For the hundreds of threads on other stuff thats really all there is.

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                • burtandernie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1563

                  #23
                  Look how many different drugs have been looked at over the years that inhibited androgens like TZP-4238 that I have never heard anything about. There was ascj 9, CB, flutamide, RU, and so on. Not a single thing ever made it as an actual topical product. Makes it seem doubtful we will ever see one.

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                  • inbrugge
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 244

                    #24
                    At this point, I'm no longer interested in the really theoretical and experimental stuff. By the time they are even reasonably evaluated, I will be like a NW5. and there's no guarantee any of these experimental treatments will amount to anything. It's basically pointless to wait on them unless your hair can hold out for 5-10 more years. I need treatments NOW that wont give me man fits or make my junk limp sorry to be blunt.

                    The only thing that is reasonably in sight is CB and Histogen and we're looking at late 2016 if everything goes well. And maybe the slight chance a miracle treatment pops out of the blue like the chlorie dioxide thing or someone figures out iontophoresis or this low systematic modification of cut or fin.

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