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  • cr1mson
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    Originally posted by brocktherock
    I used minox on and off before and I used nizoral and experimented with spiro and stuff. RU does work very well though Hopefully with the big 3 I can keep the progress going or at least maintain until replicel comes out.
    Thank you

    I have recently got on RU after being on fin for 5 years. I am still on Fin, and have lost density in the front portion and a little ground in the crown. Anyone have experience with getting on RU after being on fin for an extended time? I am hoping for regrowth but am reasonable with my expectations. I am really hoping to thicken every individual hair and hopefully had some pigment.

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  • brocktherock
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    Originally posted by cr1mson
    Was RU the first treatment you used against hairloss?
    I used minox on and off before and I used nizoral and experimented with spiro and stuff. RU does work very well though Hopefully with the big 3 I can keep the progress going or at least maintain until replicel comes out.

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  • cr1mson
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    Originally posted by brocktherock
    I took RU for a year before I saw any improvement but when I did see the difference it was very good. My thin crown almost completely filled in and my midscalp improved greatly. I saw lots of new hair in my hairline but it wasn't enough. Now Im on RU plus the big 3, I've had zero sides, my hair is starting to shed again but I feel like that may be from the finasteride.
    Was RU the first treatment you used against hairloss?

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  • diffuse
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    Originally posted by diffuseloser
    Strange. I think I'm gonna give Neogenic a whirl as my new vehicle. Does el dut use his as a vehicle for RU or both separately? Ordering another 10g of RU this week. With all the new guys starting or thinking of starting RU, maybe we should look into a large group buy to save a few.

    He's using it as a vehicle 2 or 3 ml each application. I bought 10g 3 weeks ago.

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  • brocktherock
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    I took RU for a year before I saw any improvement but when I did see the difference it was very good. My thin crown almost completely filled in and my midscalp improved greatly. I saw lots of new hair in my hairline but it wasn't enough. Now Im on RU plus the big 3, I've had zero sides, my hair is starting to shed again but I feel like that may be from the finasteride.

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  • diffuseloser
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    Strange. I think I'm gonna give Neogenic a whirl as my new vehicle. Does el dut use his as a vehicle for RU or both separately? Ordering another 10g of RU this week. With all the new guys starting or thinking of starting RU, maybe we should look into a large group buy to save a few.

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  • diffuse
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    Originally posted by RU58841
    Not only that but the instructions that come with Neogenic say not to use it more than 3 months at a time or more than twice in a year or something like that. Don't know why.
    Me neither, but el_duterino on hairlosshelp says he has been using it for 16 or 18 months every day and it gave him density and overall thickening. There are others too.
    btw i think he is the oldest RU user, he started using it in 2008 and maintained with it..
    I'll wait what happens to my hair because recently i've added fin, but i'm planning to use neogenic as well.

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  • RU58841
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    Originally posted by diffuse
    I'm from Hungary so i don't know where can you buy 95% alcohol in the UK, but a lot of people on hairlosshelp using RU mixed to Neogenic. They say it penetrates better than anything and it contains stemoxydine 5% which is really helpful for diffuse thinners, but it's a bit pricey.
    Not only that but the instructions that come with Neogenic say not to use it more than 3 months at a time or more than twice in a year or something like that. Don't know why.

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  • diffuseloser
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    Thanks diffuse I'll look into it.

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  • diffuse
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    Originally posted by diffuseloser
    Guys as I have been using Kirkland as a vehicle and now wish to change, what exactly is the best vehicle? Ethanol? If so, what kind exactly? Or Isopropyl Alcohol? Could someone point me in the right direction? I'm UK based and can't get Everclear so I'm looking for the next best thing. Getting PG shouldn't be an issue but I want to best chance of success and that means the best vehicle other than Everclear. Thank you.
    I'm from Hungary so i don't know where can you buy 95% alcohol in the UK, but a lot of people on hairlosshelp using RU mixed to Neogenic. They say it penetrates better than anything and it contains stemoxydine 5% which is really helpful for diffuse thinners, but it's a bit pricey.

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  • diffuseloser
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    Guys as I have been using Kirkland as a vehicle and now wish to change, what exactly is the best vehicle? Ethanol? If so, what kind exactly? Or Isopropyl Alcohol? Could someone point me in the right direction? I'm UK based and can't get Everclear so I'm looking for the next best thing. Getting PG shouldn't be an issue but I want to best chance of success and that means the best vehicle other than Everclear. Thank you.

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  • Illusion
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    I speculated a bit further why RU+minox might be less stable than ethanol/pg. I searched for the inactive ingredients of minoxidil and I got the same thing from multiple sites (though I don't know whether it's legit or not) :

    Active Ingredients:
    Minoxidil 5% w/v.
    Inactive ingredients:
    Alcohol, 30% v/v, propylene glycol, 50% v/v, purified water.

    Source: http://www.minoxidildirect.com/Minox...ernational.htm

    This information isn't on the bottle as far as I know. If you look at the inactive ingredients, you would say that it contains 20% purified water but I have my doubts as alcohol and pg both have percentages and purified water doesn't, so don't take my word on this.

    Anyway, the fact that there's water in it might explain why RU is less stable in minox than in just ethanol/pg. Something you could try is to add some ethanol or pg to your minox/RU solution. This way you can a) adjust the ratio of ethanol/pg if you'd like to do that and b) the amount of purified water in your solution should become less percentage wise.

    Just my two cents. You can search around for information like this but in the end it will probably be a bit of trial and error as well. After all, the whole RU approach is a kitchen sink treatment.

    Btw, GoodLookingLoser has a whole article about RU usage and he uses minox as a vehicle. Might be worth checking out to see how he does it with minox: http://www.gll-getalife.com/entry/ho...search-formula

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  • diffuseloser
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    Originally posted by diffuse
    Which minox are you using diffuseloser? I'm using RU too in ethanol/pg but my scalp is always dry because i apply 2ml of RU and after that 2 ml of minox it's to much alcohol and pg for my scalp and i hate to wait between the application the 2 applications so i'm considering to use Rogaine as a vehicle with a few drops of alcohol. I recently started using finpecia as well..
    Hey diffuse. Yeah, I also use good old Kirkland like Illusion. I make all my batches up right away and then freeze the bottles. It's really convenient and there's no need for scales etc. However, after a year of doing this, I have to agree with Illusions theory. I'm not entirely confident that this method gets the best out of RU, so I'm dropping it. Maybe this is why I'm not getting the results I'd hoped for. A lesson learnt - laziness doesn't pay. I think using minox as a vehicle has an effect on the stability of RU, even if you freeze it. I suggest you stick with ethanol/PG. Wait maybe a half hour before you apply minox.

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  • champpy
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    Yessir for sure. Ill be updating whenever I feel something is happening good or bad. Today was definitely not good. The hair loss in the morning was back up to about 30+ hairs. Its been fluctuating but it seems to be going back up for some reason. Damn

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  • champpy
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    Originally posted by diffuseloser
    You're welcome champpy. Best of luck with your RU regimen. I definitely didn't shed more on RU. The shedding I was accustomed to prior to RU didn't seem to worsen by any means. In fact, the shedding decreased considerably even after a couple of weeks. I've been on low dose 33mg for about a year now. I'm going to increase the dosage as efficacy is not what it used to be when I initially started. Also, think I'm going to ditch minox as the vehicle and go 70/30. Need to attack this more than I have been and RU seems to be the best option for a lot of us right now. Hope we can continue this thread and compare notes.
    Yessir for sure. Ill be updating whenever I feel something is happening good or bad. Today was definitely not good. The hair loss in the morning was back up to about 30 hairs. Its been fluctuating but it seems to be going back up for some reason. Damn

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