We have a vehicle for CB-03-01: VERSAPRO

[Bald Russian]

How bad is your hair loss?

4-5 norwood. Im already accepted baldness, anyway girls dont like me, so why i have to be worried about baldness? To face truth we care about hair to be attractive. Sometimes i'm asking myself why i torture with all that chemicals myself? Anyway no gf. Just reading sometimes btt, most news are negative and nothing promise a cure.
At least i decided to be a drug dealer like Walter White. I'm balding chemist, so nothing to lose, no gf no friends, no future in russia (i call it - Snowy Nigeria). I think i'm going to shave my head soon, already dont apllying minox on top, just on beard.
Sorry for negative post...

[Kudu]

Thanks! Well at least you managed to join. How bad is your hair loss? I am not sure how well tofacitilinib will work in our case, but I don't really know that much about it. I don't want to take this thread way off topic so maybe you can make a new thread to discuss your situation and what you are trying to do.

[Bald Russian]

my Cyrillic is out of practice so you will have to forgive me for that haha.

Man, your Cyrillic is fine.

Why were you not allowed to join here?

Dont know, better ask admins, after logging i always saw a message "your account is waiting for admin's approval". I wrote e-mail but havent seen any answer.

[Kudu]

I'm from the US but my grandfather lived in Ukraine and Russia before he immigrated here, my Cyrillic is out of practice so you will have to forgive me for that haha. It's funny how some countries regulate some things while at the same time let you do what you want, then in others it's the opposite. Why were you not allowed to join here?

[Bald Russian]

Привет, как дела?

Hahahah privet! (hello on russian), im fine. Where are you from? Yep its pretty easy to get it. Just simply walk to drugstore.
Even if need prescribe - they will sell it without it, because 1000$ - is great money for selling 1 pack, 1k$ is month payment for some people here. So if they will find some man that want to buy without prescribe, they better close their eyes on absence of prescribe.

[Kudu]

Привет, как дела? If I remember correctly. I agree, it would be great if you could elaborate on Tofacitilinib Hellouser. So what you're saying is that these drugs are easily accessible in Russia?

[Bald Russian]

Oh my god! Finally i can post here! Cant believe this that i joined to btt community!
Im reading btt since 2008. I was in "read only" mode because of moderators that didnt approve my accounts and never answered to my e-mails, i just tried for the luck.
First of all - Hello to everyone!
Hellouser, tell me more plz about your experiment with Tofacitinib!
Im interested because it is last chance for me.
Lets face the truth, cure never comes or maybe it will come when already will nobody care of us, because we will be about 40+ age (at least me, im 26 now + 10 years =36 so i think i will not going to care about hair in 36).
Why im interested - Russia is country of corruption, our government accepts for money any experiments on human, so Big Pharma likes to do trials in Russia. And Tofacitinib is accepted here (also bimatoprost and gonna soon ramotramban and some other i forgot it name, it gonna take effect on crth pathway and fgf9 made to cure asthma, it was on 3rd stage of trials, the last one). I can buy it right now, its about ~1000$ for 56 ampulas with 5mg of substance in each.
But when i read about side effects i was horrified, i really dont want to take it inside. So how are you going to apply it? Topical? Which vehicle are you going to use?

[Kudu]

Do you guys think RU will work with this vehicle? RU isn't a steroid, but Versapro is also used for hormonal therapies. If it does work, how many grams of RU do I add to 100 grams of Versapro for an effective topical?

[ryan82]

ah ok i understand sorry.

I asked about cb for acne

[ryan82]

+1

That's ridiculous. I hate how companies take advantage of people's desperation.

[ryan82]

its so frustrating that every thing is possible.. ONLY F*cking hairloss we still stuck at. grr The gouverment cuts all the money for research of hairloss i think, because they don't see that as a problem. On topic: well i hope this is better then RU.

I don't think we know exactly if CB is stronger or weaker than RU. However, if I were to guess I think RU is stronger. The attractive thing about CB is that it will in theory, have no systematic (anti androgen effects).

However, in the end it is just another anti androgen like RU so you can only hope to stop your balding and perhaps if you are lucky regrow a small amount of hair.

[ryan82]

Thanks for answering electrical current you say? damn its going high tec shit now :P
Yes i have also the feeling that this wont give regrowth, only preventing hairloss. But this sounds very interesting.

We won't really know until the phase 2 trial is completed sometime next year. That one is using a cream/gel or something like that. The phase 1 trial used a special device which delivers an electrical current and got significant re growth, but that may have been because of the device. My gut feel is that it will be similar results to finasteride but side effect free.

[hellouser]

The percentage issue is potentially damaging. At one percent the treatment is around $250 per months. Once you hit around 4-5% you border on weekly housing rental prices [$1500 PM] just to continue CB.

Fingers crossed something comes along to improve CB's viability financially.

You need to work on your math skills.

[cichlidfort]

The percentage issue is potentially damaging. At one percent the treatment is around $250 per months. Once you hit around 4-5% you border on weekly housing rental prices [$1500 PM] just to continue CB.

Fingers crossed something comes along to improve CB's viability financially.

That's ridiculous. I hate how companies take advantage of people's desperation.

[Jasari]

No there shouldnt be side effects but there are so many different variables to worry about still!

Is a 1% solution enough? how many times a week? is 7 days a week necessary? What happens if 1% doesnt work for some people but all they needed to do was use 5%? I feel like a lot of those people will just claim it doesnt work when they were just using too weak of a dose.

Honestly I think the only way to truly see if this stuff works is to use a 5% solution DAILY for three months especially if you have agressive hairloss!(maybe take a day or two off here and there), only then we will know. Still though that's gonna be hard as that will cost 800+ dollars!

The percentage issue is potentially damaging. At one percent the treatment is around $250 per months. Once you hit around 4-5% you border on weekly housing rental prices [$1500 PM] just to continue CB.

Fingers crossed something comes along to improve CB's viability financially.