We have a vehicle for CB-03-01: VERSAPRO

[diffuseloser]

Welcome to the forum Bald Russian. Try not to let it get you down man. You're not alone. We all know that feeling all too well but hair loss shouldn't hold you back from enjoying your life. Don't let it! The less you worry about women, the more likely they are to come crawling out of the woodwork.

[nursedude22]

That's ridiculous. I hate how companies take advantage of people's desperation.

Hey man, random question. Are you on finasteride/propecia? If so, did you get good results?
Been reading your threads and I'm suffering the same odd pattern baldness (Retrograde Alopecia). I just want to know if propecia is worth taking....

[TimJermaine]

Anyone know where I could get some Versapro? I contacted Kane and am ready to order some CB

[burtandernie]

Drug companies dont take advantage of people except for heptatitis c cures or cancer drug prices. Until CB has some reliable supplier here in US or somewhere that falls under real regulations to assure its safe I wouldnt touch the stuff. Your way way better off taking your chances with propecia if you can tolerate it. In a few years you can switch over to the safer CB once it can be bought reliably. Experimental chemicals are much more dangerous than propecia

[Jasari]

You need to work on your math skills.

I wish. $250 a pop by 5 = $1250 + $50 Shippong = $1300. Versapro running at $35 per 100ml x 5 with $25 Shipping = $1500.

Even at reduced rates the cost is ways above what 99% of the population can afford.

I'm going to give it a go but its far from sustainable.

[Xoxo]

You need to work on your math skills.

I wish. $250 a pop by 5 = $1250 + $50 Shippong = $1300. Versapro running at $35 per 100ml x 5 with $25 Shipping = $1500.

Nah, your math skills do kind of suck. 1g will last for 100 days (and not 1 month) if you use the 1% mixture as you wrote. Also I thought it was $200 instead of $250 for CB (Correct me if I'm wrong). The Versapro cream is about 20$ for 100g + let's say 15$ for shipping.
So nowhere near the $1500 per month. But still pretty expensive. I agree that we should try to find a cheaper source for CB.
Don't know what to think of the vehicle problem if there was any at all.

[hellouser]

Nah, your math skills do kind of suck. 1g will last for 100 days (and not 1 month) if you use the 1% mixture as you wrote. Also I thought it was $200 instead of $250 for CB (Correct me if I'm wrong). The Versapro cream is about 20$ for 100g + let's say 15$ for shipping.
So nowhere near the $1500 per month. But still pretty expensive. I agree that we should try to find a cheaper source for CB.
Don't know what to think of the vehicle problem if there was any at all.

Exactly, the guy's numbers were way off and very misleading to everyone reading his reply.

Only way to get the price of CB down to affordable levels is to do massive group buys... i'm talking in the kilograms for many dozens if not hundreds of people.

[diffuseloser]

I agree with that. I've already tried haggling with Kane for 20g increments to no avail. It would only work out about $10 or $20 cheaper for each of us. We'd have to be buying CB in kilos to have any discount worth talking about. Either that or we start studying chemistry.

[pagedo]

I agree with that. I've already tried haggling with Kane for 20g increments to no avail. It would only work out about $10 or $20 cheaper for each of us. We'd have to be buying CB in kilos to have any discount worth talking about. Either that or we start studying chemistry.

Before we start sourcing other chemists or even organizing a large group buy for the sake of long term affordability and consistency, we need to trial this solution to see if it even works. The CB studies showed a marked increase in hair density and diameter by the first week alone using iontophoresis. My hunch is - and correct me if I'm wrong - is that the delivery of our active solute into the trans dermal layer using VersaPro though not as efficient as iontophoresis, would need about 4-12 weeks to assess if its working at stopping hairloss and/or regrowth.

We need a thread of users who are participating that can list the source of their CB, application frequency, strength 1% - 5%, mention if their on any other medications, and report in every week or so to give us all an update.

I'm just waiting on my CB now - I quite genuinely feel that this may actually be it.

[hellouser]

Before we start sourcing other chemists or even organizing a large group buy for the sake of long term affordability and consistency, we need to trial this solution to see if it even works. The CB studies showed a marked increase in hair density and diameter by the first week alone using iontophoresis. My hunch is - and correct me if I'm wrong - is that the delivery of our active solute into the trans dermal layer using VersaPro though not as efficient as iontophoresis, would need about 4-12 weeks to assess if its working at stopping hairloss and/or regrowth.

We need a thread of users who are participating that can list the source of their CB, application frequency, strength 1% - 5%, mention if their on any other medications, and report in every week or so to give us all an update.

I'm just waiting on my CB now - I quite genuinely feel that this may actually be it.

Such a thing has been done many times already... with prices well below Kane's.

[pagedo]

Such a thing has been done many times already... with prices well below Kane's.

I have been a part of past group buys and was one of the few people who originally trialed the first CB (not in its right form) that was arranged from the old private forums.
I'm suggesting that our biggest priority should be to see if both the solute from kane and the VersaPro solvent can get us the results similar to cosmo's original study. Once we know it works, we can then start buying a little more competitively. And if its been purchased in the past with prices much lower than Kane's then great - we know we have options.

[Justinian]

If Versapro ends up being effective and a lot more people start buying CB, then theoretically the prices would drop. There would be more competition if more labs start selling it, and it's cheaper to mass produce things. This might not apply to Chinese Black market labs though haha

[jridd9]

first thing that needs to be done is to establish the effectiveness of the compound, if you've got active mbp I.e likely to have signs of dermatitis (itching, flaking) those should be fairly easy to see an early effect on (in fact this was one of the measures in the trials have been carried out). If you can establish it works and is practical you won't have a shortage of people who are willing to purchase it.

[kantian]

If somebody wants to do a group buy to get prices down, I'll sign up.

[hellouser]

If somebody wants to do a group buy to get prices down, I'll sign up.

You might want to look into Pioneering Hair Growth.