Ask Spenser about Histogen?!

[Scientalk56]

Since i don't live in the US, i won't be able to talk with spenser on his radio show..

but can someone ask spenser about Histogen, if he could reach them? Have an interview with them?
I feel like this company (histogen) "dumped me"..

[rdawg]

Has spencer ever actually done anything significant like that though? I know he's gotten the odd interview, but I feel like guys like Desmond have done far more for this community than spencer ever has with his show.

I'm not trying to attack him or anything, just saying I wish he would actually get more information constantly from these companies rather than just talking about balding problems.

[Paul73]

Good points. All we have is that old interview (when Dr. Z said that histogen was going to be available in 2016 ) It would be great if Spencer could call Dr. Ziering for an update.

[nameless]

Good points. All we have is that old interview (when Dr. Z said that histogen was going to be available in 2016 ) It would be great if Spencer could call Dr. Ziering for an update.

We don't need to wait for Histogen. They are side-tracked with their silly delay. We can get something that is just as good, if not better. AAPE/HARG is nature's own version of Histogen's HSC. And nobody owns it so we don't need to wait for some company to take it through trials. We just need to figure out a way to get the right doctor to make it available to us in the right country.

[JZA70]

Good points. All we have is that old interview (when Dr. Z said that histogen was going to be available in 2016 ) It would be great if Spencer could call Dr. Ziering for an update.

I don't think Spencer is on the same page as us. Most of us are desperate for any kind of new treatment while Spencer seems to be content with Finasteride. He's nowhere near as desperate as we are. Someone recently emailed Histogen and got the usual automated response back.

Most companies seem to fold around Phase II so I guess we'll see what happens..

[Scientalk56]

Is there a possibility to contact him through email ? Does any know it?!

[JZA70]

Is there a possibility to contact him through email ? Does any know it?!

Why even bother ? Histogen gets emails every week from forum users asking the same crap over and over.

It doesn't matter if Spencer or Jesus calls, no amount of harassing them is going to speed things up.

[hellouser]

Why even bother ? Histogen gets emails every week from forum users asking the same crap over and over.

It doesn't matter if Spencer or Jesus calls, no amount of harassing them is going to speed things up.

I'm willing to bet both my testicles that any answer they'd give would go something like this:

Thank you for your interest and message. In response to your inquiry, development of HSC is continuing. Histogen is currently focused on completion of preclinical and development work that will allow HSC to move into the next stage of clinical trials. In addition, the Company is raising a Series B financing round to support the further development of HSC and Histogen’s other therapeutic programs.

Although Histogen is not currently sharing estimated timelines for market introduction of HSC, I can say that at least one additional clinical trial will be required in any country where HSC will be introduced. The two completed trials were 2 years and 1 year in length, to give you an idea of trial duration. The initial regions of focus for HSC development continue to be the US and Asia.

If you would like to be added to the HSC interest list, for updates on the trials and plans for subject recruiting, please just let us know. We look forward to sharing updates soon.

[Scientalk56]

hahah lol

[James7]

I'm willing to bet both my testicles that any answer they'd give would go something like this:

hi hellouser,

it's funny you should say that and you may wish you didn't make that bet!! hahaha because I got a slightly different email with a little more info from them, than it appears some of you guys seem to have got. must be lucky.
it's not a great deal of info, it's something though, also shows they didn't just copy & paste something but actually did write to me.
i'll put some of it in my thread in the histogen subsection.

By the way, the group effort with Desmonds trip was really good, i think i remember right that you helped with that, so good job well done the forum needs more stuff like that . Also I think Desmond is a bit of a forum hero for doing all that, I dunno quite where or how to find a good place to thank him

[nameless]

I fail to see why we gripe about Histogen

* It's ludicrous and weak to gripe about Histogen when a satisfactory replacement is achievable - AAPE/HARG. They are almost the same thing.

* Also, in order to get Histogen we have to wait until more studies are completed and for the manufacturer (Histogen) to release the treatment. But for AAPE/HARG all we have to do is set-up a shop in The Caribbean and put one doctor in the shop to order and dispense the AAPE/HARG. The treatment is already OK to release into parts of The Caribbean and the manufacturer is already willing to send the treatment to doctors in The Caribbean. This means it would be easier to get AAPE/HARG by far than to get Histogen at this time.

It's weak to gripe about Histogen when we could get AAPE/HARG, which is essentially the same thing as Histogen if not better.

[nameless]

Why are we wasting time trying to get Histogen? Histogen is years away. AAPE/HARG is almost the exact same as Histogen and it can be obtained now in the right situation.

There is nothing any of us can do to make Histogen obtainable now. Nothing. The company is not going to release Histogen until it completes clinical trials and gets approved for commercial use by governmental regulatory agencies. Right now Histogen is stuck in limbo and once it's unstuck it will require a few more years of testing. At minimum we're looking at 3 years until Histogen comes to market.

But a treatment that is almost the exact same thing as Histogen is potentially obtainable now. It's even approved for a few select locations and the company will release it to doctors who work in those few select locations.

If we use the other treatment instead of Histogen we will not have to wait for further testing or approval by regulatory agencies. All we would have to do is set up a clinic with a doctor in one of those select few locations and then we could have that doctor order that treatment from the company that manufacturers it and the company is already willing and able to supply the doctor with that medicine.

We could do a crowd-funding project to raise the money to open up a small clinic in The Bahamas with a doctor, and then we could start getting this medicine, which is almost the exact same thing as Histogen.

It would be a lot easier to do what I'm suggesting than it would be to get Histogen at this time. Histogen is years away but a clinic offering this other treatment could be up and running inside of 1 year. And the people who contributed to the crowd-funding could actually be part owners sharing in the profits.

[IAmAce]

I'm fairly new to the Hairloss community, but could someone tell me how Histogen is going to be any different from Minoxidil? And from what I've read it doesn't stop DHT, so you'd still need Propecia?

[mjolnir]

I'm fairly new to the Hairloss community, but could someone tell me how Histogen is going to be any different from Minoxidil? And from what I've read it doesn't stop DHT, so you'd still need Propecia?

It may be more effective than minoxidil for many people, or could be used in addition to minoxidil for improved results. And from what I understand, one of the researchers was using it in place of Propecia with good results, so presumably it can counteract the damage caused by DHT to some degree.

[Sogeking]

Basically it should reawaken the follicles which are damaged after the DHT attacked them. Now sure they could still be susceptible to DHT but I think a 2 year mark after Phase 1 histogen trials showed that the patients maintained their hair line. Histogen has potential it does not have great effectivity but it is definitely usable. Unfortunately it is stuck until they find funding...