Are we at another 5 year standstill ?

[Arashi]

Hair loss has no way even remotely close the same brilliant minds in NASA, HIV, etc. expect hair loss to remain one of the slowest fields. cb0301 is backed by a billion dollar company, things are changing. Just annoying you repeat what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. Almost as bad as 35yearsold we get it buddy.

I disagree. Look at the needed knowledge, it's not just hairloss but it's way broader. If you look at stem cell engineering in general, then you will see that you're wrong, there ARE some of the world's most brilliant minds working on that, or do you think that Yamanaka shouldnt have gotten that Nobel Prize in 2012 for his work on iPS cells ? It's just that regenerative organ engineering is such a new field and it's so complex. It's very closely related to cancer research too (even more now they've found that cancer is driven by stem cells) and research there also could benefit us hairloss sufferers. It's all very closely related so if you look at it in that way, then you will see that the most brilliant minds of this world ARE working on it, but that it's just so extremely complex and we've just begun to scratch the surface of organ engineering.

But even if you look at the specialized field of hairloss research only, then there are still quite some highly intelligent and brilliant people working on it. Just watch the WCHR 2014 presentations man: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJn...bGaoOWFS6kRxDQ

Ergo, it's not that there a no smart people working on it, quite the contrary. It's just that it's extremely complex to generate an organ and we're just scratching the surface these days.

[Haircure]

I disagree. Look at the needed knowledge, it's not just hairloss but it's way broader. If you look at stem cell engineering in general, then you will see that you're wrong, there ARE some of the world's most brilliant minds working on that, or do you think that Yamanaka shouldnt have gotten that Nobel Prize in 2012 for his work on iPS cells ? It's just that regenerative organ engineering is such a new field and it's so complex. It's very closely related to cancer research too (even more now they've found that cancer is driven by stem cells) and research there also could benefit us hairloss sufferers. It's all very closely related so if you look at it in that way, then you will see that the most brilliant minds of this world ARE working on it, but that it's just so extremely complex and we've just begun to scratch the surface of organ engineering.

But even if you look at the specialized field of hairloss research only, then there are still quite some highly intelligent and brilliant people working on it. Just watch the WCHR 2014 presentations man: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJn...bGaoOWFS6kRxDQ

Ergo, it's not that there a no smart people working on it, quite the contrary. It's just that it's extremely complex to generate an organ and we're just scratching the surface these days.

But then again, using regenerative medicine to provide a treatment for hairloss is a workaround from developing a treatment for the underlying cause of AGA. With that in mind, I believe there aren't that many people involved in conducting research and developing treatments compared to other disorders.

[sdsurfin]

But then again, using regenerative medicine to provide a treatment for hairloss is a workaround from developing a treatment for the underlying cause of AGA. With that in mind, I believe there aren't that many people involved in conducting research and developing treatments compared to other disorders.

The underlying disorder involves the built in susceptibility and nature of hair cells as they exist from development onwards. That's why this isn't really a disorder or disease, it is simply one way that a person's cells can be built- just like some people have dark skin or resistance to a certain virus and some don't. there will never be a cure in that sense, it's like trying to cure the shape of someone's nose. The closest we will get is the replacement of our cells with new follicles, which I think would be just dandy. Sure it would be a pain in the ass and expensive, but also amazing. I wish it was coming sooner, as I am positive that it will in fact happen at some point, but the way things are looking I think a couple decades is probably the most likely timeframe at the earliest. lots of things to figure out still. The fact that there hasn't been a better alternative to propecia I think is a shame, and a testament to how powerful a drug company can be, and also to how turning a blind eye to the actual side effects has really hurt all of us. I think the HT docs are partially to blame. I saw dr. bernstein in NYC and he tried to explain to me that if he had the choice, propecia wouldn'e exist, because it takes business away from him. I think that's actually a pretty cynical and devious tactic on his part though, because the reality is that no one would ever get an HT if they couldn't count on propecia to halt further loss. I think that a lot of these doctors have never tried propecia themselves, and do not know firsthand how it affects the body. I am almost 100 percent sure that the people who do not get strong sexual side effects are still getting numbed mentally by the drug. in any case, let's hope someone pulls through with a better maintenance treatment.

[JZA70]

but the way things are looking I think a couple decades is probably the most likely timeframe at the earliest. lots of things to figure out still.

I don't know how one person can repeat themselves so often. You're almost up there with hellouser and his rants.

[clarence]

I saw dr. bernstein in NYC and he tried to explain to me that if he had the choice, propecia wouldn'e exist, because it takes business away from him.

Maybe Dr. Bernstein needs to have a talk... with a professional... about his own dealing with hair loss. That is, if this provocation is true.

[clarence]

Or maybe this quote is an acclamation about effectivity of propecia? Ie. "It's really that good!" I can certainly not think another reason why a mature person would say so.

[ShookOnes]

How is it partially HT doctors fault..? They spend a decade in schooling for their careers which don't involve researching for a breakthrough cure. they are simply cosmetic surgeons

[The Alchemist]

Follica has redone their website. No idea what that means in terms of them releasing a treatment, but, it would seem they are not dead...yet.

[sdsurfin]

I don't know how one person can repeat themselves so often. You're almost up there with hellouser and his rants.

my bad.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Follica has redone their website. No idea what that means in terms of them releasing a treatment, but, it would seem they are not dead...yet.

Good sign to be honest.

It means that they are working on marketing.

[hellouser]

Follica has redone their website. No idea what that means in terms of them releasing a treatment, but, it would seem they are not dead...yet.

Puretech Ventures shows their progress to be in Phase II, so they're halfway:

http://www.puretechventures.com/pipeline.php

[hellouser]

Good sign to be honest.

It means that they are working on marketing.

Yeah, total opposite of Aderans.... their site just shut down, lol.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Yeah, total opposite of Aderans.... their site just shut down, lol.

Yeah, that is a bad sign , it means the project is being cancelled.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Puretech Ventures shows their progress to be in Phase II, so they're halfway:

http://www.puretechventures.com/pipeline.php

I hope they dont get stuck in phase 2

[Arashi]

I hope they dont get stuck in phase 2

Yeah Phase II is usually the phase where trials strand: http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v3...bt.2786-F1.jpg