Are we at another 5 year standstill ?

[TravisB]

Follica has redone their website. No idea what that means in terms of them releasing a treatment, but, it would seem they are not dead...yet.

Hmm this looks like a good sign

But Desmond's interview with Cotsarelis didn't sound too good and it didn't look like anything good will come from Follica's research anytime soon, so I don't know what to think

Redone website makes me hyped, however there is not much information on that site at all. Only very basic stuff, and to be honest it looks like some snake oil website . It doesn't truly look like anything is going to come out from Follica anytime soon

[35YrsAfter]

Hmm this looks like a good sign

But Desmond's interview with Cotsarelis didn't sound too good and it didn't look like anything good will come from Follica's research anytime soon, so I don't know what to think

Redone website makes me hyped, however there is not much information on that site at all. Only very basic stuff, and to be honest it looks like some snake oil website . It doesn't truly look like anything is going to come out from Follica anytime soon

Our patient today has a PhD in Medical Science, specifically Clinical and Translational Research. He had the same expectation I did related to hair growth research. Basically, we believed the lack of progress (MPB cure/treatment) was related to lack of funding, because the study of hair growth is a low priority compared with cancer and heart disease research. Wrong. He told me he recently had a look at dollar amounts received by a wide range of research projects. He told me he was surprised at the vast amounts of money that has gone into the study of hair growth. He did mention that hair growth studies may not necessarily be related to finding a cure for MPB, but hair growth research, nonetheless.

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[The Alchemist]

Cotsarelis is not going to give away any company information in a informal discussion like he had with Desmond. It would be counter productive to their business strategy considering where they are in terms of progress towards a commercial release. I would wager that a mis-direction would be more probable than anything else. Dr Cots is under no mis-perceptions about how much a truly effective MPB treatment would be worth. Why would he jeopardize anything at this stage with a careless information leak to some random person at a hair conference? 100's of millions, possibly a billion or more dollars are at stake. So, i wouldn't read too much into Desmond's report on Cots.

I think their website looks more consumer friendly than the last version, yet contains nearly the same information. The question is, why, at this point, would they suddenly redesign their website? 7 years with the same one and now, all of a sudden, it needs a rework? It may not mean squat in regards to them releasing a treatment soon. But, it is a clear attempt to reach out to the consumer or at the very least a preparation to do so in the near future. So, something is going on with them. We just don't know what....as usual.

[hellouser]

Wow, they featured Desmond's video from the World Hair Congress!

http://www.follicabio.com/newsroom/

[joachim]

Wow, they featured Desmond's video from the World Hair Congress!

http://www.follicabio.com/newsroom/

seems like they gave the website an overall new and modern look as kind of restart. maybe to attract new investors or whatever. nowadays a good website is very important for the overall appearance for a company.

however, we already know that Cots probably has no cure for us within the next 10 years.
when tsuji or lauster bring out hair cloning, his carreer as hairloss research guy will probably be over. every hairloss researcher looking for a cure will be out of business once a cure is finally out.

[hellouser]

seems like they gave the website an overall new and modern look as kind of restart. maybe to attract new investors or whatever. nowadays a good website is very important for the overall appearance for a company.

however, we already know that Cots probably has no cure for us within the next 10 years.
when tsuji or lauster bring out hair cloning, his carreer as hairloss research guy will probably be over. every hairloss researcher looking for a cure will be out of business once a cure is finally out.

Sure but the difference between Cots and the other teams is that Cots is actually in Phase II and potentially soon to be in Phase III trials. I wouldn't wait on Lauster to come out with anything credible any time soon or any time before Cots.

[rdawg]

Wow, they featured Desmond's video from the World Hair Congress!

http://www.follicabio.com/newsroom/

It's interesting he's talking about PGD2 and PGE2. We've known about this theory for a while now but still have yet to find a product that can inhibit some or all of the levels of D2 while raising PGE2!

He also did mention that just adding the Inhibition didnt have much of an effect unless Im misunderstanding that answer at the end of the video.

[BDDFreak]

I dont know if this article has ever been mentioned from March 7th referring to George Cotseralis's work.

"While his research for stimulating hair growth in men and women is progressing, it isn’t ready for human clinical trials. It could be years before his hair-growth therapy is available."

Take whatever you will from that but even with Follica updating their website, I dont see them releasing a product soon.

http://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/lifestyles/health/doctor-seeking-hair-loss-therapy-breakthrough-for-/nd7FL/

[joachim]

Sure but the difference between Cots and the other teams is that Cots is actually in Phase II and potentially soon to be in Phase III trials. I wouldn't wait on Lauster to come out with anything credible any time soon or any time before Cots.

do you believe in his success, again?
after all those negative signs regards no funding. no funding and no investors is basically the sign that the method is ineffective.

btw which method is in phase2? the wounding with lithium?

[hellouser]

do you believe in his success, again?
after all those negative signs regards no funding. no funding and no investors is basically the sign that the method is ineffective.

btw which method is in phase2? the wounding with lithium?

I've never really believed or not believed. My only basis to form an opinion is from what's been made available from them to us. I've always said to maintain an attitude that relies on taking everything of what these researchers say with a grain of salt. One day they'll tell you everything is going great, the next the whole project is shut down (Aderans). Pretty much everything is speculation.

[hgs1989]

regarding follica, we now know that follica has created follicles. the hairs are miniaturized. their next step is to find something to make them grow terminal hair. from desmond's interview they are far from achieving good results.

[Haircure]

Cotsarelis is not going to give away any company information in a informal discussion like he had with Desmond. It would be counter productive to their business strategy considering where they are in terms of progress towards a commercial release. I would wager that a mis-direction would be more probable than anything else. Dr Cots is under no mis-perceptions about how much a truly effective MPB treatment would be worth. Why would he jeopardize anything at this stage with a careless information leak to some random person at a hair conference? 100's of millions, possibly a billion or more dollars are at stake. So, i wouldn't read too much into Desmond's report on Cots.

Then why would he ask Desmond if we were willing to crowd fund him a couple million for a treatment release? Also if I recall correctly, Follica's president or CEO resigned some months back, and although I recall he cited his reasons being that he wanted to work on something else,I think that follica is at a roadblock.

[sdsurfin]

That website is a squarespace website (free). Their old one was a custom one. Probably another sign that they are lacking funds and can't even pay for someone to make and maintain a site.

[The Alchemist]

Cots never asked Desmond to be crowd funded.

[The Alchemist]

Websites need little to no maintenance and the cost is easily afforded by most individuals, never mind an incorporated company backed by venture capitalists. Furthermore, they not only reworked the website, but, updated it with new information - Desmond's video and a new article. So, clearly the new one is being maintained and kept active...which contradicts your assumptions

And their old website was not hi-tech by any stretch of the imagination. What about it makes you think it was custom? It looked about as non-custom as a website can get.