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  • bigentries
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 465

    #31
    Seems like Yoram pushed a very similar treatment after Pilox's hype started to die down



    They seem to be using the same pictures from the hairdresser story for this treatment too


    So that guy already had two similar scam products (the russian site and Reload hair), plus other questionable quackery like acupuncture and leeches

    And there are some people still defending this guy? No wonder scams keep coming and coming

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    • bigentries
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 465

      #32
      Originally posted by NeedHairASAP

      - We saw 1 (I repeat, ONE) forum member who tried a pilox version (version #2 I think), and it was difficult to see if he got results. If he did, they were negligible. This is hardly enough evidence to "out it as a scam". The device has been improved up to being on version 5 or 6 or 7 now.
      I love how you forget to mention that forum member and Yoram were caught lying about those results.

      And how you proclaimed for months those results that were "difficult to see" were impressive and the ultimate proof the device worked

      Just leave it already dude, CG210, the Chlorine solution, this thing. You keep pumping obvious scam after scam.

      Why not let time tell instead of being so emotionally invested to anything that gives you some hope?

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      • NeedHairASAP
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1408

        #33
        Originally posted by bigentries
        Seems like Yoram pushed a very similar treatment after Pilox's hype started to die down



        They seem to be using the same pictures from the hairdresser story for this treatment too
        RELOAD Professional Hair System | The Reload system enables clinically proven hair re-growth with a long lasting effect.


        So that guy already had two similar scam products (the russian site and Reload hair), plus other questionable quackery like acupuncture and leeches

        And there are some people still defending this guy? No wonder scams keep coming and coming

        1. Reload hair IS the russian product.... so one product.

        2. You know reload isn't yoram's product. He is somehow affiliated but isn't the owner or founder of whatever company it is. I know you already know that.

        3. why are you in this thread? as seen above, you're leaving out important details and adding fabricated misinformation.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          #34
          Originally posted by bigentries

          Why not let time tell

          okay, bigentries calls the product a scam, and then tells me to "let time tell". That makes sense.

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          • epipapilla
            Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 75

            #35
            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
            No not at all.

            - Up to this point, we have very little information past some (really good looking) photos.

            - We know a (potentially questionable) Dr. Yoram Bentiah (sp.?) is involved. What role he plays past helping administer tests and tricho-scans, we don't know. It's also questionable whether yoram is questionable--- it's 100$ speculation.

            - We saw 1 (I repeat, ONE) forum member who tried a pilox version (version #2 I think), and it was difficult to see if he got results. If he did, they were negligible. This is hardly enough evidence to "out it as a scam". The device has been improved up to being on version 5 or 6 or 7 now.

            - Cost is $800, which includes a trichoscan for "insurance" (ie, if you don't get 30% increase you get your money back, allegedly)

            - limited release in israel in the next 2-3 weeks

            - no website up yet. NO the "Reload Hair" website is not pilox, and is probably not tied to pilox at all past Yoram's affiliation with reload hair.


            conclusion: Definitely worth following, but of course, like always, be cautious
            How do you know all this information if there isn't even a website for this product or treatment?

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            • bigentries
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 465

              #36
              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              1. Reload hair IS the russian product.... so one product.

              2. You know reload isn't yoram's product. He is somehow affiliated but isn't the owner or founder of whatever company it is. I know you already know that.

              3. why are you in this thread? as seen above, you're leaving out important details and adding fabricated misinformation.
              1. They are not the same thing, the russian site had a dermapen looking product, reload looks like a dermaroller.Why are you claiming they are the same thing?

              2. I'm going by whatever the site is claiming, the site claims "Developed by Dr. M. Burstein Laboratories & Mr. Yoram Benitah, Consultant Trichologist". Why are you saying it's not Yoram's product if the site says so?

              3. You are the one that loves to post BS in hair loss forums, seriously dude, stop pushing scams everywhere you go. If you believe something is working, then wait until you can rub it on people's faces. But you already have a history of claiming scams are cures. If you don't want people to question you, then don't defend any quackery you find interesting

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #37
                LOL, NeedHairASAP is still pushing this scammer ? Even after we got Yoram lying and we found out Yoram was selling acupuncture, blood sucking leeches and scam products like that ? Weren't you also the guy that was pushing scammers like Dr Gho and Dr Nigam by the way ?

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                • epipapilla
                  Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 75

                  #38
                  Originally posted by bigentries
                  Seems like Yoram pushed a very similar treatment after Pilox's hype started to die down



                  They seem to be using the same pictures from the hairdresser story for this treatment too
                  RELOAD Professional Hair System | The Reload system enables clinically proven hair re-growth with a long lasting effect.


                  So that guy already had two similar scam products (the russian site and Reload hair), plus other questionable quackery like acupuncture and leeches

                  And there are some people still defending this guy? No wonder scams keep coming and coming
                  Hmmm, something fishy is going on. The http://reloadhair.com/hair-regrowth/reload-system/ link now forwards to http://vk478.ru/. It was working yesterday.

                  Now the http://vk478.ru/ site is not working, but a google cache of it reveals it to be a VKontakte site, which is a Russion version of Facebook.

                  Anyway, I sense that something is very much amiss here....I guess older members on this forum will have more insight as to what they are trying to hide.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #39
                    Originally posted by epipapilla
                    Hmmm, something fishy is going on. The http://reloadhair.com/hair-regrowth/reload-system/ link now forwards to http://vk478.ru/. It was working yesterday.

                    Now the http://vk478.ru/ site is not working, but a google cache of it reveals it to be a VKontakte site, which is a Russion version of Facebook.

                    Anyway, I sense that something is very much amiss here....I guess older members on this forum will have more insight as to what they are trying to hide.
                    LOL yeah this is a huge scam. Yoram is a guy who is selling all guys of scam products like acupuncture or even blood sucking leeches that supposedly can cure hairloss So a true master of quackery. He was working with a guy on another forum who posted fake pictures. And now, as BigEntries showed, they're using some of the same pictures they used for Pilox as demonstration pictures for some new scam product

                    Guys like Yoram will never stop. And unfortunately there will always be people who WANT to believe and who will emtpy their pockets to buy into some new scam.

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                    • bigentries
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 465

                      #40
                      Originally posted by epipapilla
                      Hmmm, something fishy is going on. The http://reloadhair.com/hair-regrowth/reload-system/ link now forwards to http://vk478.ru/. It was working yesterday.

                      Now the http://vk478.ru/ site is not working, but a google cache of it reveals it to be a VKontakte site, which is a Russion version of Facebook.

                      Anyway, I sense that something is very much amiss here....I guess older members on this forum will have more insight as to what they are trying to hide.
                      It has happened before. The old dermapen site featured Yoram heavily, after they got caught he gave an explanation about the site being from one of his students. Shortly after that they removed all his references

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #41
                        Originally posted by bigentries
                        It has happened before. The old dermapen site featured Yoram heavily, after they got caught he gave an explanation about the site being from one of his students. Shortly after that they removed all his references
                        LOL yeah I remember that. He'll soon probably say that Pilox wasnt his project but it were some of his 'students'

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                        • bigentries
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 465

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          LOL yeah I remember that. He'll soon probably say that Pilox wasnt his project but it were some of his 'students'
                          Well, NeedHairASAP claims that Yoram's involvement is a mistery, so I guess he already started to distance himself from the product

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                          • LongWayHome
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 183

                            #43
                            I don't trust him..He told me that I don't have mpb, because the top of my head was full and thick, while the hairline was thinning, which he called "weird" and said he has never seen something like that, after I told him that I use minoxidil for 3 years (back then), which is obviously why the top was so thick.
                            He told me that his new product won't have an effect on me and said "If you want...I can use another method, but you need to have some money for that."
                            I said thank you and never talked to him again.

                            Btw I dropped minoxi 10 months ago and the top of my head is thinning rapidly now.
                            Just got 6 months supply and starting again from today.

                            He calls himself "Trichologist" which is a stage name for dermatologist.
                            "Trichologists themselves are not normally licensed healthcare workers..." (Wikipedia)

                            Just don't jump on it too fast.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #44
                              Originally posted by LongWayHome
                              and said "If you want...I can use another method, but you need to have some money for that."
                              Hehe I actually laughed out loud. I'm sure he had some nice and expensive blood sucking leeches laying around to treat you

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                              • LongWayHome
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 183

                                #45
                                I dont even wanna know :O

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