adipose-derived stem cell protein extract

[nameless]

yes I am sure. sure I will keep you posted on this thread but I might take a while. as I said I will buy it after the summer and then 6 to 8 weeks of the treatment.

* The researchers in he original study added some other ingredients of their own. Are you going to do that too?

* Also, the researchers injected the treatment. Are you going to do that too?

* Also, they didn't just inject the treatment on one occasion. There were follow-up appointments where they did more of the same treatments.

* Also, I think they used a topical of the treatment.

* They injected a certain depth - 3 cm I think.


You have to do the exact same things the researchers did.

[hgs1989]

one more thing guys, if you are going to try it, try it on your own responsibility. I am not responsible for any complications. I will try them at my own risk .

[Alias123]

wait a minute, what is the difference between the one in vienna

http://ddrheinrich.com/en/treatments/face-skin-hair/

and

http://www.arsmedical.info/template-...tem-cells.html

which one would you guys trust yields the best results?

[hgs1989]

wait a minute, what is the difference between the one in vienna

http://ddrheinrich.com/en/treatments/face-skin-hair/

and

http://www.arsmedical.info/template-...tem-cells.html

which one would you guys trust yields the best results?

they are the same, fatty stem cells.

[nameless]

they are the same, fatty stem cells.

How do you know that they're the same treatment? They might be different treatments. Yes they both involve adipose stem cells but AAPE (the treatment in the study originally presented in this thread) is a very specific extract of very specific growth factors and proteins from those adipose stem cells. The Vienna treatment may not involve the exact same growth factors and proteins. Plus the AAPE treatment in the study was mixed with some other ingredients by the researchers some vitamins and whatnot. I really don't think that the Vienna treatment will include those same ingredients. Also, the treatment in the study was injected at certain depths and involved repeat follow-up treatments of the same medicine weeks later for months. Also, the treatment in the study also involved a topical rub-on solution for at least some patients.

[Pelopeleon]

one more thing guys, if you are going to try it, try it on your own responsibility. I am not responsible for any complications. I will try them at my own risk .

What problems could you have with that stem cell treatments, for example that one from Switzerland? What could expect a nw2 using this?

[hgs1989]

Swooping,

What if you were to use the dermapen that deposited a topical? SAGA has a thread on it, check these out;

http://viya.en.alibaba.com/product/1501145531-212416527/VY_799_derma_roller_electric_roller_massager.html

http://www.novanewface.com/product-3-3-298.html

http://www.dermica.ch/en/products/transversal/automeso.php

http://www.amazon.com/Therapy-Delivery-Tappy-TokTok-Professional/dp/B00CPBY7M4/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

http://www.ubiomed.co.kr/base/eng/product/product_01.php

http://www.adminmed.com/adminpen600

would you please post a link to the thread you mentioned

[hellouser]

would you please post a link to the thread you mentioned

I don't want to be banned here, lol. SAGA is a private forum anyway.

[Alias123]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

[Pelopeleon]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

Yes, it would be very nice. I am thinking about that treatment... as I cannot tolerate propecia, and I am only using minoxidil.

[hgs1989]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

I would recommend to take the photos by yourself. the doctors will always try to enhance the results by lighting.
thanks

[hellouser]

Im going for the treatment in switzerland within 1 month, do you want me to keep you updates with photos etc? only on propecia now, been for 15 months, still losing ground so if hairloss stops or i get regrowth, its because of this treatment and not anything else.

Please do and please try to take consistent photos at the same angle with the same lighting conditions.

[bananana]

guys,

how long are these results expected to last?

[zeos]

another Korean product

http://www.jmbiotech.co.kr/jm/pdf/%28e%29turtlepin%20brochure.pdf

http://www.jmbiotech.co.kr/jm/pdf/%28e%29turtlepin%20solution.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFWiSkQbjtk

[nameless]

http://www.balancehairrestoration.co...stem-cells.pdf

check it out really amazing results are show. it also mention the procedure can be done with current technology. several sessions are required. trichoscan showed 83% increase in hairs (see figure.7 before treatment 29 hairs in the area and after 53. (53-29)/29 = 83%). full head pictures are also available.figure.3 shows a male without fin and figure 4 shows another on fin, but I doubt that fin would make that difference in 6 months. sad it is not approved by the FDA. but why ? it is similar to ACell + prp. it is like histogen on steroids. any how check it out. there are clinics doing research on other treatment adipose-derived stem cell without the protein extract thing. http://www.stemcellrevolution.com/cu...r-restoration/

I have decided that this is our best short term solution. It's something we can do right now if we can get the exact same treatment that is in this exact study.