WCHR 2014 Presentations (Community-funded)

[Almostthere]

In my honest opinion, I don't believe they would release anything if you crowdfunded $2 million. There's a reason why he threw out the $20 million for full head of hair. In business you're always afraid of competition "the next big thing." They are playing a very smart and conservative game. They must protect themselves and their investors. Their fear is that the amount of money and time it will cost to mass produce, market, etc will not outway the risk if someone else like Lauster's group comes out with an all out cure 7 8 9 yrs from now. That's why in my opinion they will not produce a product that is better than fin or minox, they will wait and produce a product that will be revolutionary (takes out the risk).

[35YrsAfter]

Also, audio & video quality of the talks seem very good. I'm having a bit of trouble with transferring it into premiere pro to edit the videos. I may have to take the videos back to Oz and ask my friends to help me with the editing in which case you guys may have to wait at least another week to watch them. I'm really sorry about that but this whole codec formats and frames pr second options are like a foreign language to me lol. Desmond.

If you're still having an issue with Premiere Pro, what kind of an error message do you get when you try to import the video into Premiere? You may want to get the freeware program called GSpot. Just drag the video files into the window and the codec and frames per second is revealed. With that information, you can start a new project in Premiere Pro and pre-select sequence settings. Could possibly help.

A website called Zamar will will let your convert files into something more compatible with Premiere. The free version only allows files up to 100Mb, which is pretty small for a video file.

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[nameless]

In my honest opinion, I don't believe they would release anything if you crowdfunded $2 million. There's a reason why he threw out the $20 million for full head of hair. In business you're always afraid of competition "the next big thing." They are playing a very smart and conservative game. They must protect themselves and their investors. Their fear is that the amount of money and time it will cost to mass produce, market, etc will not outway the risk if someone else like Lauster's group comes out with an all out cure 7 8 9 yrs from now. That's why in my opinion they will not produce a product that is better than fin or minox, they will wait and produce a product that will be revolutionary (takes out the risk).

I think they would release a $2 mill cure (better than minox or propecia) because then they could get all of the business minoxidil/propecia get for the next 8 years until Lauster or whoever brings an all-out cure to market.

[comb0ver]

I've been lurking this forum for a long time. Just wanted to say how cool it is that this is happening. Whatever the news, it's encouraging that people can come together and achieve something like this.

I'm confused on one point though -- are the 'germans' who are still 3-4 years from phase 1 trials the same people that Desmond is excited about treatments with in the 'near future'?

Thanks in advance.

[nameless]

First of all: wow Desmond, making friends with the top of the top researchers in the field, that's just beyond awesome This trip is yielding so much more than I had hoped for.

Now about what you said:



Then my question is (and please ask that to everybody) -> if we can culture DP cells to maintain the genetic info necessary for hair formation, then what's keeping us from a cure ? I mean, isn't it all about what Jahoda and Tsuji proved, that combining DP + epithelial cells = new hair ? And if it's not simple like that, then what is the current problem ?

Thanks Desmond and keep it up man

I agree. It sounds like what Desmond is saying is that they have cured hair loss but I sense that they are not saying that. It's as if there are more problems to overcome.

DP + epithelial + retain ALL genetic markets for hair inducement = cure. If Desmond is right then we just have to figure out how they are culturing dp cells while retaining ALL genetic markers for hair inducement.

[BoSox]

Thanks for all your hard work Desmond. Seems as though a cure is still years off.. Very disappointing. I will stay off these forums and try to be as happy as I can until a cure is out. Peace brothers.

[Desmond84]

First of all: wow Desmond, making friends with the top of the top researchers in the field, that's just beyond awesome This trip is yielding so much more than I had hoped for.

Now about what you said:



Then my question is (and please ask that to everybody) -> if we can culture DP cells to maintain the genetic info necessary for hair formation, then what's keeping us from a cure ? I mean, isn't it all about what Jahoda and Tsuji proved, that combining DP + epithelial cells = new hair ? And if it's not simple like that, then what is the current problem ?

Thanks Desmond and keep it up man

Hahaha Arashi its a pleasure my man Finally getting a clear picture of where we are is truly interesting.

I actually asked exactly the same question from Dr Atac/Linder. We discussed Tsuji teams work and Dr Jahoda/Christiano. Their answer was very intriguing indeed and made me realise how far along they are. I'll let you know what they said once they give me the green light.

I got the answers to that question and it is VERY positive indeed albeit we are not there yet but very close.

[Desmond84]

If you're still having an issue with Premiere Pro, what kind of an error message do you get when you try to import the video into Premiere? You may want to get the freeware program called GSpot. Just drag the video files into the window and the codec and frames per second is revealed. With that information, you can start a new project in Premiere Pro and pre-select sequence settings. Could possibly help.

A website called Zamar will will let your convert files into something more compatible with Premiere. The free version only allows files up to 100Mb, which is pretty small for a video file.

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Thanks brother I actually skyped my friend tonight and tried to figure out what the problem is. It has something to do with the installation where my camera is not preloaded into the software. The only way to fix it is for him to install a patch or something. I'll keep you guys posted.

[downandout]

They finished phase 2 of trials? Did they finish both 2A and 2B? If so then all they need to do is raise enough money for the phase 3 and BOOM, we got a product better than propecia! So maybe 2 years after they raise the money, if everything went good..

However, after hearing this, i'm not nearly excited about Follica as I was before.

[Aik82]

This is awesome Desmond!

Good luck and let's hope for some good news!

[Desmond84]

Thanks for all your hard work Desmond. Seems as though a cure is still years off.. Very disappointing. I will stay off these forums and try to be as happy as I can until a cure is out. Peace brothers.

To Bosox and all of our members who are desperately waiting for a solution:

Guys I have said for well over 2 years now, we will not have a full blown cure as you would call it until early 2020's. That is due to the rigorous studies that is necessary to be conducted in order to prove safety and efficacy. These studies can take between 5-8 years and are quite expensive.

Our goal in terms of attending this conference was to see where the scientific community stands at this point in time and if we are on the right path to have a solution to AGA by 2020-2023. So far, all the signals point to a big YES and we should be really excited about that.

Apart from doing everything we can to support these scientists all we can do is live our lives to the fullest and have an optimistic vision of the future.

So don't lose all hope and join in dscussions whenever you feel like having a chat...

I also have some insight into why Aderans failed to achieve any impressive results and it was very much along the lines of what we had speculated on the forum. I'll post more about that when I get a chance...

Cheers guys. Another big day tomorrow.

Goodnght

[Desmond84]

Btw Arashi,

I just remembered. I just found out that Dr Nigam pulled out of his presentation for some unknown reasons! Thought you'd be interested to know

[hellouser]

To Bosox and all of our members who are desperately waiting for a solution:

Guys I have said for well over 2 years now, we will not have a full blown cure as you would call it until early 2020's. That is due to the rigorous studies that is necessary to be conducted in order to prove safety and efficacy. These studies can take between 5-8 years and are quite expensive.

Our goal in terms of attending this conference was to see where the scientific community stands at this point in time and if we are on the right path to have a solution to AGA by 2020-2023. So far, all the signals point to a big YES and we should be really excited about that.

We're going to need a 'bridging' option until then. It's 2014 with another 6-9 years before we can sniff a cure to this disease. Pilofocus + CB should hold the fort until then... In the meantime Histogen needs to get off its ass and Follica's final Phase III trial needs to commence right now.

[hellouser]

Btw Arashi,

I just remembered. I just found out that Dr Nigam pulled out of his presentation for some unknown reasons! Thought you'd be interested to know

It may have something to do with the fact that I sent an email to all the main email addresses to the hair congress about Nigam's fraudulent activity along with CC'ing Nigam on two of his email addresses. This was last week.

=D

[comb0ver]

We're going to need a 'bridging' option until then. It's 2014 with another 6-9 years before we can sniff a cure to this disease. Pilofocus + CB should hold the fort until then... In the meantime Histogen needs to get off its ass and Follica's final Phase III trial needs to commence right now.

why do you think the world owes you anything man? It really doesn't.

I know it sucks but you have to learn to live your life. I've been lurking this forum for a long time, and it's cool you have so much energy and want to see a cure so much.

But you have to focus on making yourself happy somehow, none of this stuff is gonna happen any time soon so you should probably take up bodybuilding or something instead. lol