Questions for Desmond at Hair Congress 2014

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    Originally posted by breakbot
    It isn't necessary trying to be a psychologist to take an answer from him, if they have a viable cure Cotsarelis will answer, if his answer will be not clear i suppose they have nothing or they are at an early stage which means 5 years etc...
    That's not true because he works for Follica. Cure or no cure at all, Follica and Dr. Cotsarelis are going to give you a very typical corporate answer that won't actually give you a concrete answer.

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    • breakbot
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 101

      #17
      Originally posted by hellouser
      That's not true because he works for Follica. Cure or no cure at all, Follica and Dr. Cotsarelis are going to give you a very typical corporate answer that won't actually give you a concrete answer.
      If Follica has something the market game will force him to give us a straight answer, if they are far or something he will give us the usuall stuff.
      It's just my opinion on the way the market works.
      Although it will be very difficult for Desmond to persuate those scientists to discuss with him, i hope to make it.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #18
        Originally posted by breakbot
        If Follica has something the market game will force him to give us a straight answer, if they are far or something he will give us the usuall stuff.
        It's just my opinion on the way the market works.
        Although it will be very difficult for Desmond to persuate those scientists to discuss with him, i hope to make it.
        I thought about this earlier actually;

        Suppose Follica gets the go ahead with their treatment. Apparently they're using known chemicals to produce follicles with wounding. Would they not have to reveal in their patents or SOMEWHERE what those chemicals are specifically?

        If such is the case, what would prevent someone doing their own rendition of the treatment if we knew what the chemicals were? Suppose someone in India wanted to copy the process and run it there for a fraction of the price?

        At some point, we're bound to find out what exactly they're using. But no way in hell is Dr. Cotsarelis going to answer that. To be honest, I dont care if he does or doesn't. I want a clear answer on the set date for a release of the treatment. The wait time has gone on for long enough.

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        • JJJJrS
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 638

          #19
          I think it's totally ridiculous to be asking about release dates and things like that when we don't even know how effective, if at all, the treatment is.

          I'm more interested in getting a general sense of where things stand. So basically how far off are we from an effective treatment, what are the major obstacles holding the research back, is there anything interesting being worked on in the background/pipeline, and whether there's anything the online hair loss community can do to help out. Obviously, to get answers to these questions, you're going to have to poll as many of the top researchers there as possible before you can develop some type of consensus.

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          • breakbot
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 101

            #20
            Originally posted by hellouser
            I thought about this earlier actually;

            I want a clear answer on the set date for a release of the treatment.
            This is the question i refer to.

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            • jjo
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 109

              #21
              before the question;

              have a look around at how many of these dudes from all these companies are bald or thinning..

              ask them if they feel the pain we do and get it a little more personal, then ask how long they think till something will be available that can help us


              maybe ironic and they'll all have full heads of thick hair

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #22
                Originally posted by JJJJrS
                I think it's totally ridiculous to be asking about release dates and things like that when we don't even know how effective, if at all, the treatment is.

                I'm more interested in getting a general sense of where things stand. So basically how far off are we from an effective treatment, what are the major obstacles holding the research back, is there anything interesting being worked on in the background/pipeline, and whether there's anything the online hair loss community can do to help out. Obviously, to get answers to these questions, you're going to have to poll as many of the top researchers there as possible before you can develop some type of consensus.
                +1 JJJJrs (as always)

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                • Sogeking
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 494

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  +1 JJJJrs (as always)
                  Yeah go with the JJJrs advice. There is no point in asking specific release dates, trying to go personal with them etc. Come on guys think if someone approaches you on the street and asks you how do you feel about your baldness. 90% of you would just ignore the question think "What a weirdo!" and move on.

                  I'm just interested to know if any of them are at all trying to go to clinical or pre-clinical trials. If none of them are, then it is time to move on.

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                  • walrus
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 298

                    #24
                    Psychological 'tricks' are not going to get anyone to commit to a product release date at this conference.

                    If there is information to share they will be forth coming with it, if not, prepare to disappointed.

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                    • baldybald
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 243

                      #25
                      As they say, plan for the worst and hope for the best

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                      • brocktherock
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 203

                        #26
                        No disrespect but where is Desmond with updates? Everyone's been sending money and he could have gotten the goal's worth weeks ago and people may still be sending money. Im not saying he has to be on here every second but an occasional status update and thank you would go a long way.

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                        • hgs1989
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 164

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Dr. Roland Lauster/Beren Ataç[*]If the bioreactor creates exact duplicates of follicles that function as normal follicles, is it necessary to have them go through clinical trials for implanting considering hair transplants achieve this and have been approved as a method for commercial use.
                          It is an embarrassing condition that has plagued middle-aged men but now scientists think they are close to creating a baldness cure after a stem cell breakthrough.

                          Ithink the article would answer this question. funny it is from 2010 an it quotes dr Lauster saying: "within five years (5 years timeline anyone) hair loss sufferers can grow new hair from their own stem cells and have it implanted their bald spots". since you say the people involved are there, lets hope they are their to start marketing. that is if the 5 years timeline holds true.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            #28
                            Originally posted by brocktherock
                            No disrespect but where is Desmond with updates? Everyone's been sending money and he could have gotten the goal's worth weeks ago and people may still be sending money. Im not saying he has to be on here every second but an occasional status update and thank you would go a long way.
                            He's collected over $2,100 but Desmond is still pitching in a large amount on his own. I'd like him to have as much as possible (well, within reason, lol) just to cover any surprise costs.

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                            • Sogeking
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 494

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hgs1989
                              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...tem-cells.html
                              Ithink the article would answer this question. funny it is from 2010 an it quotes dr Lauster saying: "within five years (5 years timeline anyone) hair loss sufferers can grow new hair from their own stem cells and have it implanted their bald spots". since you say the people involved are there, lets hope they are their to start marketing. that is if the 5 years timeline holds true.
                              When stem cells are in question this 5 year prognosis for a new treatment are unrealistic. Mainly because there is always a danger of tumors forming from them when injected back into the receiving party. That is why they have to go through rigorous safety tests once they figure out how to mass produce stem cells and then differentiate them into hair follicles.

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                              • BoSox
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 697

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Sogeking
                                When stem cells are in question this 5 year prognosis for a new treatment are unrealistic. Mainly because there is always a danger of tumors forming from them when injected back into the receiving party. That is why they have to go through rigorous safety tests once they figure out how to mass produce stem cells and then differentiate them into hair follicles.
                                Not single stem cell-based treatment for baldness being sold out there claiming it works seems promising and legit. But there is hope from research.


                                "...here is reason for some optimism that stem cells might actually treat or cure baldness in the future…but we are talking a decade or more from now."

                                Decade or more? Lord I hope that's not true.

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