Dr. Wesley Pilofocus

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    Originally posted by Sparky4444
    don't know the costs because they don't know the person-hours for the new procedure..plain and simple...also have to recoup costs for development of the new tool, although that can't be in the order of thousands...but I could be wrong
    Man hours are supposed to be cut down significantly when harvesting grafts. If you watch presentation Dr. Wesley made thats available on Vimeo, you'll see he was going REALLY fast, like 1 graft per 2-3 seconds. A large chunk, if not majority of the costs for hair transplants is the doctors time. Pilofocus should alleviate that significantly.

    Implanting the grafts into the recipient area is still going to be tedious.

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    • Artista
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2070

      #17
      Hellouser - "Man hours are supposed to be cut down significantly when harvesting grafts. If you watch presentation Dr. Wesley made thats available on Vimeo, you'll see he was going REALLY fast, like 1 graft per 2-3 seconds. A large chunk, if not majority of the costs for hair transplants is the doctors time. Pilofocus should alleviate that significantly.
      Implanting the grafts into the recipient area is still going to be tedious"

      You hit the nail on the head there Hellouser.
      In fact the update that Dr Wesley had shared with me last month (via Skype)
      showed a very consistent AND METICULOUS pattern of that removal time-frame.
      One more thing, he very recently told me that by the last week of April he will be contacting me about the next phase test.
      Stay strong all

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      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        #18
        Thanks for this Artista

        Incidentally, did you get to the UK last year. If so, did you get to Swindon

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        • baldymcgee
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 118

          #19
          This "Pilofocus" thing seems to have gone quiet in the last few months. I realize that speculation is always dangerous so we should avoid that. But has anyone heard anything definitive? Did the tests take place? Is the technique still in development, or has it been shelved?

          Anything? Bueller?

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          • ShookOnes
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 209

            #20
            Originally posted by baldymcgee
            This "Pilofocus" thing seems to have gone quiet in the last few months. I realize that speculation is always dangerous so we should avoid that. But has anyone heard anything definitive? Did the tests take place? Is the technique still in development, or has it been shelved?

            Anything? Bueller?
            yeah, don't expect much regeneration. pilofocus to me atm just seems like a procedure with scarless, nothing to wet your pants ovevr. Of course, I hope to be proven wrong but I'm thinking of making a FUE appointment soon, it'll be much cheaper for sure..

            Hey guys. I know some people hate on Rassman but I've been reading his blog, as I have these forums for many a year. And unlike the other docs who harp on about Acell like its a miracle (miracle money makey) it turns out that its a dud. DO NOT TRUST THE HYPE- I TRIED ACELL WITH COOLEY. IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING SPECIAL.

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            • fred970
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 922

              #21
              I still don't understand this scarless thing, I had my FUE two months ago and I shave my head completely because I'm in the post-shedding phase of the HT. Even with a magnifying glass, you wouldn't be able to find any scars. This just sounds like a marketing argument to me.

              Don't hesitate Shookones, I think pilofocus won't be available to the public widely and at a reasonable price before a long, long time.

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              • baldymcgee
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 118

                #22
                Originally posted by fred970
                I still don't understand this scarless thing, I had my FUE two months ago and I shave my head completely because I'm in the post-shedding phase of the HT. Even with a magnifying glass, you wouldn't be able to find any scars. This just sounds like a marketing argument to me.

                Don't hesitate Shookones, I think pilofocus won't be available to the public widely and at a reasonable price before a long, long time.
                Maybe you got lucky, i.e. maybe you have the right healing characteristics and skin color. Clearly everyone isn't so lucky as there *are* people with visible white dots from FUE.

                Also, the growth comparison table from Dr. Wesley's presentation is pretty impressive -- lower transection, higher and faster growth.

                Of course, all this is for nothing until the procedure hits the market.

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                • FearTheLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1581

                  #23
                  It's disheartening to see that artista was supposed to start the last trial end if spring and it's now middle of summer. We have heard nothing in a year when we were supposed to see the presentation they saw, last December.
                  Last edited by Winston; 07-09-2014, 12:15 AM. Reason: False statement removed. Please refer to posting policies.

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                  • Kiwi
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1087

                    #24
                    Originally posted by fred970
                    I still don't understand this scarless thing, I had my FUE two months ago and I shave my head completely because I'm in the post-shedding phase of the HT. Even with a magnifying glass, you wouldn't be able to find any scars. This just sounds like a marketing argument to me.

                    Don't hesitate Shookones, I think pilofocus won't be available to the public widely and at a reasonable price before a long, long time.
                    I don't agree, fred970 is speculating on price and timelines, nobody here has a clue and fred970 is particularly biased to FUE since he's had a good one. Which is okay but you need to know where he's coming from.

                    Pilofocus won't show scars (plural) it'll just show 1 small scar. The incision where he goes in to get the grafts from underneath. Its a genius concept and will be better than normal FUE at some point. What I do agree with is that we don't know when this will be available. I'd rather one small scar than thousands of FUE scars.

                    So if you do get FUE just get enough to see you through to a better technology comes along. Don't EVER EVER EVER rush into any hair transplant ever. AND if you are getting an FUE done you want to make damn sure its done by somebody REAAAAAALY good because there are just as many FUE horror stories now as FUT.

                    Not so much scaring stories but stories where people don't get good graft survival rates. Rassman seems trustworthy for FUE.

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                    • PayDay
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 544

                      #25
                      Looks like this is being taken seriously. The Verge is a huge Tech and Science site. They cover some cutting edge stuff. Very cool!

                      The Verge is about technology and how it makes us feel. Founded in 2011, we offer our audience everything from breaking news to reviews to award-winning features and investigations, on our site, in video, and in podcasts.

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                      • fred970
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 922

                        #26
                        Watching him concentrate, I wonder whether Wesley’s work in this little corner of science is worth it. After all, he estimates that piloscopy may cost a patient upwards of $20,000 out of pocket, and it isn’t exactly a life-saving procedure.
                        $20000? If I hadn't had my FUE already, this what I would say: I'm out.

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          #27
                          Originally posted by fred970
                          $20000? If I hadn't had my FUE already, this what I would say: I'm out.
                          Hopefully he means $20,000 for an entire solution and many thousands of grafts.

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                          • ShookOnes
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 209

                            #28
                            Originally posted by fred970
                            $20000? If I hadn't had my FUE already, this what I would say: I'm out.
                            " may cost a patient upwards of $20,000 out of pocket". I guess I'll just hope that that would be enough for a lot of grafts.. although I have to admit the pictures before/after on his site don't look as amazing as i thought it would be

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                            • Artista
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2070

                              #29
                              Hello everyone,
                              Sorry that i haven't been active here in a while.
                              My wife and I have been so busy with our new home improvements and renovations.
                              Also the work load at my regular job has been outrageous..tons of overtime etc etc.

                              I just heard back from Dr Wesley early this morning friends!
                              Apparently the phase testing may be happening this month after-all!
                              Keep in mind , I am not surprised that Dr Wesley had been so delayed in the next phase of testing.
                              He has been so busy with the very important task of his instrumentation updating and finalization.
                              As Ive said,,once I am able,,I will update everyone here.
                              I cant wait to be one of his test-patients for this amazing new method.
                              Fingers crossed guys!!
                              Cheers

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                              • Javert
                                Member
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 99

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Artista
                                Hello everyone,
                                Sorry that i haven't been active here in a while.
                                My wife and I have been so busy with our new home improvements and renovations.
                                Also the work load at my regular job has been outrageous..tons of overtime etc etc.

                                I just heard back from Dr Wesley early this morning friends!
                                Apparently the phase testing may be happening this month after-all!
                                Keep in mind , I am not surprised that Dr Wesley had been so delayed in the next phase of testing.
                                He has been so busy with the very important task of his instrumentation updating and finalization.
                                As Ive said,,once I am able,,I will update everyone here.
                                I cant wait to be one of his test-patients for this amazing new method.
                                Fingers crossed guys!!
                                Cheers
                                Nice job man. Thanks for the updates! So excited to see how well everything goes!

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