Crowdfunding for Dr. Xu

[Hicks]

Yeah we'd have to come up with some decent backer incentives. Perhaps a small amount of the funds could go towards hiring someone to make short films documenting the research efforts, which could be available to backers once every 3-6 months for example.

Having a system for allowing say $1000+ backers to be first in line to receive the treatment when it's ready would be great, because maybe some rich guys who are just starting to thin will invest in this rather than get a $10,000+ hair transplant. But I don't know if that's feasible.

I've said before that this project would be a huge media-darling. I can see it being internationally viral news - "Kickstarter for baldness cure launched".

Maybe you could own a percentage of any company formed from the research? I remember listening to NPR and how some states allow small companies to sell company shares to raise money through a state firm of crowd funding. There might be to many regulations but maybe ownership of a company is the best/logical incentive?

I would ask Xu what happens to the cure. I'd be p*ssed if they could sell it to Merk.

[HairBane]

Maybe you could own a percentage of any company formed from the research? I remember listening to NPR and how some states allow small companies to sell company shares to raise money through a state firm of crowd funding. There might be to many regulations but maybe ownership of a company is the best/logical incentive?

I would ask Xu what happens to the cure. I'd be p*ssed if they could sell it to Merk.

Unfortunately that's illegal right now

[Mike K]

I'd pitch in $1,000. I'm sure there are many others who would as well. Sounds like a great idea. I don't really understand all the stuff behind whos doing what to cure this, but is this guy closer than anyone else? Seems like we should back whoever is closest to the finish line.

[paradigmshift]

I'm in $1000. Need help setting up the kickstarter?

[sascha]

I love this idea. I even think, if the General public is on board and people are aware of how a pain in the a** hair loss really is, we can maaaaybe see something cool happen... the FDA is just to much of a roadblock.
I am just a broke university student, but I am willing to give what I am able to spare.

[ytterligare]

In the news today , the UK winner of the £108mio jackpot was an average joe, who doesn't know what to do with the money....and he's also bald !

Perhaps he could help out with a few million here or there

Why not ask him? He could become a hero for millions of people worldwide.

[PaddyBateman]

Why not ask him? He could become a hero for millions of people worldwide.

I imagine he'll have loads of people already sniffing around his cash. On a serious basis, they'd have to be a real base set-up first , for him to invest in.

But yeh, what a hero he could be.

[hellouser]

I love this idea. I even think, if the General public is on board and people are aware of how a pain in the a** hair loss really is, we can maaaaybe see something cool happen... the FDA is just to much of a roadblock.
I am just a broke university student, but I am willing to give what I am able to spare.

I actually have a very VERY close friend here in Toronto that works at one of the top Universities health research labs and overlooks the finances of ONE of the labs. I asked her about why there is so much bullshit surrounding the release of a treatment, even if it were safe and working. Her response:

RED TAPE.

Yeah, so any initiative we take is going to have to do TWO things:

1) skirt around FDA bullshit (as well as other popular restrictive health ministries) in order to release a working treatment in less regulated nations
2) push for a reform with the FDA to allow the use of cloned follicles to be implanted into our scalps for a TIMELY release in USA.

Keep in mind that its somewhat 'unfair' to give USA priority release as all of you (hopefully, lol) are aware that there is a world outside of USA's borders and there are opportunities and obstacles for a treatment outside of USA to be released. Not everyone with hair loss lives in USA despite BTT's origins being in USA.

[sascha]

I actually have a very VERY close friend here in Toronto that works at one of the top Universities health research labs and overlooks the finances of ONE of the labs. I asked her about why there is so much bullshit surrounding the release of a treatment, even if it were safe and working. Her response:

RED TAPE.

Yeah, so any initiative we take is going to have to do TWO things:

1) skirt around FDA bullshit (as well as other popular restrictive health ministries) in order to release a working treatment in less regulated nations
2) push for a reform with the FDA to allow the use of cloned follicles to be implanted into our scalps for a TIMELY release in USA.

Keep in mind that its somewhat 'unfair' to give USA priority release as all of you (hopefully, lol) are aware that there is a world outside of USA's borders and there are opportunities and obstacles for a treatment outside of USA to be released. Not everyone with hair loss lives in USA despite BTT's origins being in USA.

I understand you. I am actually from Italy, so I am well aware of all this bureaucracy bull**** . Well, to be honest I personally think that Japan will provide us the cure/solution, but wouldn´t it be nice if all the hair loss sufferers would come together and create awareness and actually would do something about our current state. By helping guys(like Dr. Xu), that are way smarter than all of us, to work towards a better future some of us could potentially also calm their nervs(at least in my case).
I am not long in that hairloss-game AND I am sorry for the nonsense, but goddammit CB 03 01 is taking forever, because they started trials with their acne product. SERIOUSLY??? at least that product could help younger guys like myself.
Sorry, had to be said.

[Dazza]

Well, to be honest I personally think that Japan will provide us the cure/solution

My hairline back and a trip to Japan? you tease.

[sascha]

My hairline back and a trip to Japan? you tease.

I really donīt wanna put this VERY COOL thread off track, because I am only a junior member, BUT how cool would that be... All the circumstances speak in favour of Japan as becoming the saviour and I think that would be well deserved if you consider the steps the government is willing to go towards a "more agile" future of science. Itīs 20 f-in 14 not 1998

[hellouser]

I really donīt wanna put this VERY COOL thread off track, because I am only a junior member, BUT how cool would that be... All the circumstances speak in favour of Japan as becoming the saviour and I think that would be well deserved if you consider the steps the government is willing to go towards a "more agile" future of science. Itīs 20 f-in 14 not 1998

Actually, it may as well be 1992! That's the last time a proven treatment (finasteride) for MPB was released by the FDA, 22 years ago! That is total GARBAGE! Well, to be fair it was for BPH but its still the same chemical.

[sascha]

Actually, it may as well be 1992! That's the last time a proven treatment (finasteride) for MPB was released by the FDA, 22 years ago! That is total GARBAGE! Well, to be fair it was for BPH but its still the same chemical.

Yeah, you are right, Sir! Hellouser, Arashi, sdsurfin, etc. could you guys maybe share your thoughts on our situation? Are you excited? sceptical? Do you think Tsuji lab is ahead of (for example) Dr. Xu? I reeeeally am looking foreward to hear about WCHR 2014, I hope some good stuff is presented. And also the movements in Japan gave me some hope. It is just sad how hair loss restricts the quality of life. Just because of such a "disease" we inherited we lose motths and years of quality-time and everybody that isnīt able to "man up" is considered a *****. I just want everybody to know about that stuff!!!!

[hellouser]

Yeah, you are right, Sir! Hellouser, Arashi, sdsurfin, etc. could you guys maybe share your thoughts on our situation? Are you excited? sceptical? Do you think Tsuji lab is ahead of (for example) Dr. Xu? I reeeeally am looking foreward to hear about WCHR 2014, I hope some good stuff is presented. And also the movements in Japan gave me some hope. It is just sad how hair loss restricts the quality of life. Just because of such a "disease" we inherited we lose motths and years of quality-time and everybody that isnīt able to "man up" is considered a *****. I just want everybody to know about that stuff!!!!

Excited? Yes.
Skeptical? No.
Is Tsuji labs ahead of Dr. Xu? Don't know.

I've got a ton of stuff going on at work and freelance, once things die down I'm going to plan for greater things for a public push to get us a treatment FAST. As you said, our lives are short and we shouldnt have to wait if a hair loss cure is available. Living with this shit is hard as it is... thinking of living another 30 years with social torment is even worse.

[sascha]

Excited? Yes.
Skeptical? No.
Is Tsuji labs ahead of Dr. Xu? Don't know.

I've got a ton of stuff going on at work and freelance, once things die down I'm going to plan for greater things for a public push to get us a treatment FAST. As you said, our lives are short and we shouldnt have to wait if a hair loss cure is available. Living with this shit is hard as it is... thinking of living another 30 years with social torment is even worse.

thanks for the reply. nice to know at least some of us have the balls to dare to get their hopes up. the really sad thing about is that I donīt even care if such a treatment would cost me "5-10 years" (lol) of my life as long as I can enjoy it now...I know that is the stupiest comment ever, but sadly itīs true...
Still I am very optimistic that just once the baldies may have a bit of luck...and in that point of time I will tell myself (in old scarface fashion) THE WORLD IS YOURS