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  • baldybald
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 243

    Remember guys a lot of products failed in phase 3 and I hope this is not the one

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    • TooMuchHairWontKillYou
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 104

      Originally posted by baldybald
      Remember guys a lot of products failed in phase 3 and I hope this is not the one
      Can you write briefly what is phase 3? and did hair loss products fail in phase 3 in the past?

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      • baldybald
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 243

        Originally posted by TooMuchHairWontKillYou
        Can you write briefly what is phase 3? and did hair loss products fail in phase 3 in the past?
        I really do not remember the source, but I saw it from a website and one member mentioned that the easiest phase is phase 1 and the most difficult one is phase 3

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        • Tenma
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 172

          Originally posted by baldybald
          I really do not remember the source, but I saw it from a website and one member mentioned that the easiest phase is phase 1 and the most difficult one is phase 3
          The critical moment seems to be the transition from ph. 2 to ph. 3: 38%

          phase 3 success rate for small molecules like SM 3: 61%

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          • xyz123
            Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 47

            Originally posted by TooMuchHairWontKillYou
            Can you write briefly what is phase 3? and did hair loss products fail in phase 3 in the past?
            Wikipedia summarizes nicely:

            "Phase III[edit]
            This phase is designed to assess the effectiveness of the new intervention and, thereby, its value in clinical practice.[1] The percentage of Phase II trials that proceed to Phase III, as of 2008, is 18%.[6] Phase III studies are randomized controlled multicenter trials on large patient groups (300–3,000 or more depending upon the disease/medical condition studied) and are aimed at being the definitive assessment of how effective the drug is, in comparison with current 'gold standard' treatment. Because of their size and comparatively long duration, Phase III trials are the most expensive, time-consuming and difficult trials to design and run, especially in therapies for chronic medical conditions. Phase III trials of chronic conditions or diseases often have a short follow-up period for evaluation, relative to the period of time the intervention might be used in practice.[1] This is sometimes called the "pre-marketing phase" because it actually measures consumer response to the drug."

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            • rdawg
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 996

              The findings are consistent with preclinical in vivo animal models, in which SM04554 has been shown to generate new hair follicles and increase hair count.

              Looks like we're getting incredibly close to a new product hitting the market.

              BIM, SM and Histogen all showing a high amount of efficacy in phase 2+ trials.

              very exciting times! Hopefully SM goes straight to phase III now, very unlikely it fails as they've already proven safety and just need to show widespread efficacy.

              On top of that, they seem very happy with this product, already talking about releasing results at the next conference(while BIM was more hush-hush when they didnt quite get amazing results).

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              • Tenma
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 172

                I think Bimatoprost is almost done.

                If SM significantly outperforms Minox in trials, the chances of seeing another growth stim will diminish considerably.

                I still hope CB comes to the market. A receptor antagonist is always welcome

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                • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 330

                  Originally posted by Tenma
                  I think Bimatoprost is almost done.

                  If SM significantly outperforms Minox in trials, the chances of seeing another growth stim will diminish considerably.

                  I still hope CB comes to the market. A receptor antagonist is always welcome
                  Do SM and Bim work on different stages of whatever the chain of processes is that causes follicles to go bad though?

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                  • champpy
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 336

                    If that 21st century cures act passes couldnt they skip phase 3?
                    Also, shouldnt that act be getting the yay or nay anyday now?

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                    • BiqqieSmalls
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 135

                      Originally posted by champpy
                      Imagine if they had said 'dramatically significant', we would all be popping a cork right now
                      Sigh. Dramatically significant is not a "statistics" term.

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                      • champpy
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 336

                        If that 21st century cures act passes couldnt they skip phase 3?
                        Also, shouldnt that act be getting the yay or nay anyday now?

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                        • doinmyheadin
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 123

                          ^^ Yes would love to know whats going on with the act

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                          • deuce
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 209

                            Does this retain hair as well?

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                            • champpy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 336

                              Duece. We should know more hopefully in jan when phase 2 wraps up. If it retains hair thats a huuuuge plus

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                              • ShookOnes
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 209

                                U guys think it'll work on hairline?

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