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  • KO1
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 805

    Originally posted by feartheundead
    I am a part of this study. I just started this week. This is phase 2 of clinical trials. I will be on the medication for 3 months and then 1 month of follow up
    Hey man, do you have an email that we can reach you at? No PM's allowed....

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    • Halo26
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 2

      I'm also part of this study. I was just cleared to enroll. Same shcedule as feartheundead.

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      • It's2014ComeOnAlready
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 584

        Originally posted by Halo26
        I'm also part of this study. I was just cleared to enroll. Same shcedule as feartheundead.
        Nice! Hope you get good results with it. Let us know how it goes (if you can).

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        • Swooping
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 794

          Hey guys, any updates? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

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          • Gjm127
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 170

            Any phase 1 results available online?

            Candidates: have you been briefed with the potential effectiveness/safety information of the drug?

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            • Hairismylife
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 383

              Can this and Bim be the new Big 3, I have high hope

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              • Tenma
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 172

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                • Tenma
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 172

                  Lets hope man. CB, SM and Bim together may very well outperform min-ru-dut combo (my personal big 3).

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                  • rdawg
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 996

                    Originally posted by Tenma
                    Lets hope man. CB, SM and Bim together may very well outperform min-ru-dut combo (my personal big 3).
                    I agree, CB the new version of FIN/DUT without the sides.

                    Bim a much better version of Minoxidil

                    SM i'm not sure? Isn't it a similar anti-androgen like CB?

                    Either way we seem to be in the early stages of simply upgrading older medication, nothing wrong with that, younger generations will be able to hold on to their hair and possibly grow a little back, still nothing that will turn a NW7-NW1 though.

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                    • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 584

                      Originally posted by rdawg
                      I agree, CB the new version of FIN/DUT without the sides.

                      Bim a much better version of Minoxidil

                      SM i'm not sure? Isn't it a similar anti-androgen like CB?

                      Either way we seem to be in the early stages of simply upgrading older medication, nothing wrong with that, younger generations will be able to hold on to their hair and possibly grow a little back, still nothing that will turn a NW7-NW1 though.
                      SM is a WNT pathway activator it seems. The recent discovery about how macrophages are necessary to tell stem cells to create hair are very important because macrophages activate WNT proteins. All of these newer applications are based on real science and should be effective. You shouldn't have to mess with hormones or reduce the size of your prostate to keep your hair. Woohoo! Now if they'd just hurry up.

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                      • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 584

                        Follica better hurry up and get a treatment to market, unless they want another effective topical getting there first.

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                        • Sogeking
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 494

                          Originally posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready
                          Follica better hurry up and get a treatment to market, unless they want another effective topical getting there first.
                          I don't think Follica has any intention of putting anything hair loss related to market. As Cotsarelis said to Desmond, they don't have the money...

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                          • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 584

                            Originally posted by Sogeking
                            I don't think Follica has any intention of putting anything hair loss related to market. As Cotsarelis said to Desmond, they don't have the money...
                            You see, I don't understand this kind of logic. Desmond himself said that each group didn't show their full hand, so why would Cots to an "interviewer" who basically ambushed him? Their original plan clearly was to corner the hair loss market by providing a hair loss treatment based on real scientific evidence, and creating a procedure to make hair transplants unnecessary. The latter is obviously a lot harder and a lot more costly.

                            The only way they would be able to tell if they'd been making progress with other chemicals other than a gpr44 blocker, would be use a topical gpr44 blocker and test compounds. It's a crucial part of even testing their ability to regenerate new follicles, because they would have to block what's inhibiting hair growth in the first place and then add growth factors. Cotsarelis has said himself that they made it through two trials, and I think that would infer that they have something to block that receptor. If it costs "$2 million to produce," and would make billions every year, why wouldn't any of that $55 million go to Follica?

                            Not saying they'll have anything for sure, but I like what I see.

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                            • flappytom
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 11

                              I bet this is very promising combines with ru58841 or fin,dut

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                              • breakbot
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 101

                                This is the most exciting prospect in my opinion. It's based on the latest knowledge about aga and not all those prehistoric (only) dht stuff. 2015 will be the year where we will find out if any of sm, bim and cb will make it go through phase 3 (soon on market).

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