Histogen Update from Ziering Medical

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  • rhysmorgan
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 94

    #76
    First post here, but I've been lurking since 2007, 2008...something like that.

    I just came on to say that the criticism of the FDA process as a whole (of course, component parts of any process should be constructively criticised) is a very silly thing to do in the context of stem cell research. Stem cell research can involve some extremely dangerous elements. a friend of mine is the editor of the stem cell section of one of the biggest A* scientific journals and they said that this stuff is incredibly dangerous, and treatments should never be considered in deregulated/non-regulated environments.

    The 3 phase process/similar processes (e.g. UK) is necessary for this type of research to ensure safety.

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    • JJJJrS
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 638

      #77
      It was a bad sign when Histogen used two different areas for one of the macro before and after photos. The other one was completely misrepresented as well, with the wild numbers they were throwing around. And yes, there is zero doubt that this happened.

      That's basically the day when I lost any and all faith in Histogen. They really haven't shown anything at all to get excited about.

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      • bigentries
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 465

        #78
        Originally posted by JJJJrS
        It was a bad sign when Histogen used two different areas for one of the macro before and after photos. The other one was completely misrepresented as well, with the wild numbers they were throwing around. And yes, there is zero doubt that this happened.

        That's basically the day when I lost any and all faith in Histogen. They really haven't shown anything at all to get excited about.
        they did had impressive results... with females

        I guess the market of females with severe AGA is pretty small

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #79
          Originally posted by bigentries
          they did had impressive results... with females

          I guess the market of females with severe AGA is pretty small
          Yeah, the market with men that suffer with AGA is too large to focus on... lol. My god, the priorities of some of these biotechs.

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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            #80
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Yeah, the market with men that suffer with AGA is too large to focus on... lol. My god, the priorities of some of these biotechs.
            Yes cry about it some more, that will help

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            • locke999
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 158

              #81
              Originally posted by greatjob!
              Yes cry about it some more, that will help
              Don't you dare mock Hellouser. Hellouser is slowly venting his way into a cure i'll tell ya. All these worthless biotechs are incompetent! I bet Hellouser is working multiple experiments in his basement as we speak and will personally bring us a cure within 2 years. He has done so much for us!

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              • greatjob!
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 909

                #82
                Originally posted by locke999
                Don't you dare mock Hellouser. Hellouser is slowly venting his way into a cure i'll tell ya. All these worthless biotechs are incompetent! I bet Hellouser is working multiple experiments in his basement as we speak and will personally bring us a cure within 2 years. He has done so much for us!
                Watch out bro, he will put you on his ignore list if you point out his whiny female tendencies, like he did me. I have been devastated ever since...

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                • Conpecia
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 904

                  #83
                  why exactly is anyone wasting time with histogen at this point? when their rep up and tells you they're a few years away and suggests another treatment that's a pretty good sign to move on for now.

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                  • ryan555
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 428

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Conpecia
                    why exactly is anyone wasting time with histogen at this point? when their rep up and tells you they're a few years away and suggests another treatment that's a pretty good sign to move on for now.
                    Whoever wrote that is not a rep for Histogen. They are not associated with Histogen in any way except that they work for a doctor who performed a small study with their product.

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                    • deuce
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 209

                      #85
                      Where the hell is Follica. They get out hopes up every two years with some announcement and we never see anything from it. First it was pdg2 and then Fgf9. Cotsarelis said three years ago that we would have something available. Then we here from the pricks two years later about something else.

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                      • doke
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1465

                        #86
                        Originally posted by greatjob!
                        Watch out bro, he will put you on his ignore list if you point out his whiny female tendencies, like he did me. I have been devastated ever since...
                        He did same to me he picks and chooses who he wants to respond to he really needs to grow up.

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                        • doke
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1465

                          #87
                          Im wondering is hellhouser el due from hairsite? i know its not jacob from hairlossfight as he responds to everyone even if you have a falling out.

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                          • baldymcgee
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 118

                            #88
                            Originally posted by deuce
                            Where the hell is Follica. They get out hopes up every two years with some announcement and we never see anything from it. First it was pdg2 and then Fgf9. Cotsarelis said three years ago that we would have something available. Then we here from the pricks two years later about something else.
                            My guess (and this is purely a guess) is that they aren't set up to do full-scale drug/treatment development. They exist to do research and then sell/license the results and patents to larger drug companies to actually do the expensive "last mile" work of developing a drug or treatment. So although they have some great research, it's not far enough along to convince someone like Merck to license their findings *or* they want to develop the findings more fully to drive up the price.

                            I said this is a guess -- but only as far a Follica goes. It's a pretty common model in the research-pharma world.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #89
                              Is greatjob still riding my nuts? I put the kid on my ignore list a while ago and he's still butthurt. Dude needs to get laid... I heard it's Valentines, today might be a good start.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                #90
                                Originally posted by doke
                                Im wondering is hellhouser el due from hairsite? i know its not jacob from hairlossfight as he responds to everyone even if you have a falling out.
                                Now you're just reaching real hard. You guys are paranoid.

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